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Cattleya Intermedia 'Mini Quinee': Sibling Rivalry

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    Post Cattleya Intermedia 'Mini Quinee': Sibling Rivalry

    I got these two Cattleyas as seedlings earlier this summer. They looked exactly the same when they arrived...both were in the small, square pots you now see the one in the right in. The one on the left took off and started growing like gangbusters, while its brother didn't do much, then started to shrivel. It now appears to be slowly committing suicide.

    Here's a look at the two plants:

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    As you can see, the one on the left has already been moved to a larger pot, and it is enthusiastically filling it up with new growths. I wouldn't be surprised if it bloomed within a year at the rate it's going (it's a mini).

    Up until recently the culture for these two has been exactly the same. But when the one on the right started having problems, I gave it a little less sun and tried to baby it a bit more.

    Now it only has one really strong growth left...the curled leaves on the right side of the plant are starting to crinkle. Here's a closeup of the curling leaves:

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    Because this one's struggling so much, it's now been moved to "sickbay" (terrarium) with a couple of other orchids I'm trying to keep alive.

    So, what makes this one plant do so much better than the other? Is the smaller one just a weaker plant? And, if so, is it always going to be a weak plant, or does it just need to get more established before it becomes a good grower?

    If it's always going to be a troublesome plant, I'd just as soon let it go to orchid heaven now. It was a freebie anyway...I ordered one seedling and they sent me two. I don't like to throw away plants, but this one is slowly dying on its own, and if it's going to be a fight to keep it alive for the next ten years, I'd rather focus my attention elsewhere.

    What do you all think?

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    It looks like it has new growth at the base of the pseudo bulb. You are a great nurse, i vote nurse it along and see what happens, it may surprise you, but what do i know !lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine View Post
    It looks like it has new growth at the base of the pseudo bulb. You are a great nurse, i vote nurse it along and see what happens, it may surprise you, but what do i know !lol!
    You're right...that one last pseudobulb is putting out some new growth. All the others have shriveled...maybe all the "good stuff" went to that one bulb! LOL I just can't imagine how one plant could be so happy while the other is so sad, when they were from the same batch and were grown next to each other in my house with identical culture!

    It's kind of discouraging though...even if that pseudobulb has a little new growth on it, it will be AGES before this plant blooms. It's not supposed to get smaller before it gets bigger, right? Hehee....

    Well, growing orchids is nothing if not an exercise in patience and delayed gratification.

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    Well, anyways it is at least 3 years before even the healthy one flowers, so the other one will catch up. Probably its roots were damaged when you got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloamey View Post
    Well, anyways it is at least 3 years before even the healthy one flowers, so the other one will catch up. Probably its roots were damaged when you got it.
    What's that you said, Amey? Were you writing something about "free beers?" I could have sworn I heard you say "three years," but you couldn't possibly be implying that the boisterous, robust orchid on the left will take that long to bloom! That guy's gonna beat the odds, I tell ya.

    But in all seriousness...the root damage theory is a good one. I didn't really take them out of their pots in the beginning to inspect their roots because they were so teeny, but I did notice that one was "floppier" than the other one. I had to prop up the pseudobulbs on the sad one, otherwise they'd sort of just flop over the side of the pot. Perhaps it had gotten shaken in shipment and the p-bulbs had come partly detached from their roots. That would explain the slow demise of the growths.

    Well, if that's the case, then that's good news; it means the plant isn't flawed in any fundamental, genetic way. I'll just have to nurse along that one pseudobulb that's left. I'm pretty sure that's one's still firmly attached at the roots. Ah, well...perhaps the sad one will bloom by the time my 5-year-old goes to college.

    I'm betting the other one blooms by next summer. If it doesn't...Amey, you have my permission to say "I told you so." He hee!


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    Somebody say free beer? ... What? hahaha...

    Hope they both take off soon. I've had the same thing happen with new orchids. Some grow like mad ... some just seem to sit there doing nothing. Patience and good care always wins out.

    cheers,
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    Hi Jenn,
    I purchased an Lc Cariad about a year ago. It was potted in I dont know what and it is now suffering. I read it likes to be mounted so I just attempted to do so. I am wondering how yours are planted. I live in Louisiana so they are in warm,humid weather.

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    I am wondering if it is scale I see on the struggling orchid... it looks a little chewed up and some of the brown spots I see look pretty suspicious. I might be paranoid, I've been fighting scale for some time using alcohol, cotton swabs, q tips and the like. I finally got aggressive a couple of months ago and got some Bayer 2 in 1 insecticide. I started washing down plants, then spraying them and got to a house plant I hadn't paid much attention too - it was covered in scale! I tossed that one and, after my treatment, haven't seen any more scale now for a month!

    Sign me paranoid!

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