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Phalaenopsis keiki advice

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    I checked by the search bar but did not find any topic that describes exactly my question. So, I just wanted to know how many roots a keiki should have to be separated from the mother's stem? I just never cared about keiki separation as all the keiki grow with their mother and they all (incl. mother plant) seem to be fine with it and not bothered. This one I want to separate because the mother plant looks quite miserable (with another keiki on it's crown or at least for me it seems a keiki) so i think its time to divide. But I want to know if I am not too late to replant it? Because rots seem too long. And how long above to cut from the stem? Also the mother plant hasn't bloomed for 2 years.

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    I have done keiki transplant for many Dendrobiums and for Dendrobiums 3-4 inches of root is what I look for. Same should hold good for Phal as well. yours has quite long roots and sure they can be cut and transplanted into its own container.

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    Not too late to replant. Actually, it is a very healthy keiki.

    3 good roots are enough for keiki to be transplanted. Since your keiki has more than 3 roots, it is definitely easy to survive on its own.

    You no need to cut the stem when dividing. You can gently twist the keiki to come out from stem/joint/point where it grows.

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    Thanks guys! And so I have successfully potted keiki and seems it feels fine. But in general, can I keep keiki on the flowers spike (if the mother plant feels fine)? How are you doing usually? So far I just leave them growing there and I think it would look gorgeous when they all and the mother blossom together, and also I'd prefer to save some space for other orchid species instead just filling my windowsill with keiki phals

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    Yes, you can keep keiki on mother plant so long mother plant is healthy.

    Whether potted separately or leave on mother plant depends on your personal preference.

    If potted separately, the keiki will grow much faster & you will have back up plant.

    But, if you leave it on mother plant, you will have specimen plant.



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    Thanks guys! And so I have successfully potted keiki and seems it feels fine. But in general, can I keep keiki on the flowers spike (if the mother plant feels fine)? How are you doing usually? So far I just leave them growing there and I think it would look gorgeous when they all and the mother blossom together, and also I'd prefer to save some space for other orchid species instead just filling my windowsill with keiki phals

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    glad to hear that your keiki is doing fine. actually your keiki has more roots than needed for separation.
    usually three to four healthy roots will be fine, but also depends on how many and big the foliage it has.
    keiki with smaller/less leaves can be divided even when roots are a couple inches long while those with bigger/more leaves would need more and longer roots before they can be removed.

    i experience this myself when i was removing my phal philipinensis keiki, the keiki has very big leaves, about 5 inches and at that time with four healthy roots with it. however it needed a very shady environment before it started to establish due to the high transpiration rate.
    i had no choice to remove it at that time because the roots are begining to grown into the media of the mother plant and i do not wish to but the roots eventually.

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    A third option is to pot the keiki next to the mother, which yields a specimen plant also. Plus there seems to be some synergistic effect that we've touched on before in these keiki threads...both mother and baby seem happier together!

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    Ok, thanks! I'll try with my other keikis!
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    I really like that thought. That is what I will do.
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    Hi again. This is the keiki I was asking about, some time ago. It has made his 2nd flower stem (the 1st one is the old one it made while still growing on it's mother plant). So hopefully will blossom this year before it arrives hot weather here. Thus I have a question about the spots on its leaves. Like yellowish ones, I hope you see from the pic. Is some virus or what? It has been like this for a month or two.
    Greetings from Italy!

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