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Unidentified dens

This is a discussion on Unidentified dens within the Genus Specific forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Picked up these two unidentified dendrobium at the "going out of business sale". Price $3.00 ...

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    Default Unidentified dens

    Picked up these two unidentified dendrobium at the "going out of business sale". Price $3.00 US ea.

    Anyone Id for me?
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    those three Dendrobs will remain Noids as they are a dime a dozen and once the name tag is lost its vertually impossible to put a name to them

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    Like Murray said, it is very hard to correctly identify those mass produced dends and phals. The flip side is that they are really nice looking plants and blooms. You can call them NOID A, and B.

    Cheers,
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    Thanks to you both.

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    No worries. Wish I had better news.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutal_Dreamer View Post
    Wish I had better news.

    Not a problem. They are what they are. Being new to orchids, I have a lot to learn. I apreciate honest input.

    Thanks again.

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    Btw, I have been wondering about this lately - how come all the noids everywhere? I mean, there have to be quite a few hybrids and cultivars of roses, but if you buy one, even a discount rose bush, there is always some name on the tag.

    Some of mine don't even have any sort of company/supplier listed on the tag, which seems so strange these days when EVERYTHING has a brand. A company-less product is so unusual...

    How come nobody seems to know where the cheap orchids come from? Too expensive to print a name on the tag (seems unlikely to me since they print all sorts of other stuff on it)? Too much effort of keep track?

    I guess the latter is my best guess, but I still can't really see why for these flowers it it SO hard to put a name on it but with other plants it is no problem!

    (plus, it is frustrating! I have pretty flowers and they would like names even if I'm not breeding them or anything...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneersnt View Post
    Not a problem. They are what they are. Being new to orchids, I have a lot to learn. I apreciate honest input.

    Thanks again.

    Edd
    Just because it is a NOID doesn't make it any less pretty.
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    Oh, I love my pretty noids!

    I am just so used to plants having names that I still find it hard to live with the "some hybrid" because it seems to me that is someone made the hybrid, someone ought to know how they created it!

    I guess just the sheer numbers in this case make things different.

    (I have just decided to find something that looks close and call them that privately)

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    It is frustrating for the orchid enthusiasts, that these plants have no names. The simple fact of the matter is that they are massed produced. The best of the best of the BEST go to growers who will put a tag into the pot and sell the orchid at a premium price. The others - the cull, will be sold in mass to distribution outlets that can turn a profit on a pretty bloom without a name at a cheap price. Those plants are made to bloom and then be thrown out when the blooms are gone and replaced with another new orchid in bloom. This is a good and bad thing. It is good because many people would not pay the expensive prices for an orchid if they have never grown one before, so they buy a discount - nameless - plant at a box store. If they are 'plant people', they start growing it and hope to rebloom it. If they are not plant people the process stops here with the death of the blooms usually. The good part: Those that do grow the plant usually get into orchids and start buying the plants that are named because they have 'perceived' and real value. These people generally will stop buying the NOID's that are mass produced and start buying orchids that they see and can find on-line or in nurseries by name.

    It was very frustrating when we were commercial growers to purchase orchids to re-sell and then see something similar in the box stores or discount shop for half of what we could get the plant for at wholesale. The main difference was that the discount plant was a weaker variety and was poorly grown and did not have a name. The flowers would be smaller and fewer in number, but the colors were about the same.

    Many of the phals and dends that are mass-produced come from Taiwan. They are produced literally by the thousands and sold for as little as 1.00 each in huge quantities. It is an amazing process to investigate.

    Cheers,
    BD

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