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any rose growers out there?

This is a discussion on any rose growers out there? within the The Jungle forums, part of the Land Plants category; my mum has a joke that she kills a rose every year, she does all ...

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    Default any rose growers out there?

    my mum has a joke that she kills a rose every year, she does all the generic tips everyone tells her (bone meal, cut it back, wrap in burlap and cover with a bucket, yadda yadda...) and they do fine the year she puts them in but never come back the next year.
    i really wanna help her out this year so i need some beyond-the-basics rose growing tips. also if you know of any particularly cold-hardy types that'd be nice to hear (they say we're a zone 5 but thats gotta be a load, plus we're like half an hour from a zone 4. this metric is flawed, we have really cold summers and really cold winters so the average gets messed up)
    she never seems to get any diseases, they just plain don't come back. she prefers climbing roses btw...

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    I'm not familiar with growing roses is cold temperatures, infact I have problems with it not getting cold enough. But try the link below for information and some recommended roses:

    Canadian Hardy Roses

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    It could be that her soil is too heavy. I have clay soil and have a problem with survival. It stays too wet and they die

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    I have a few roses lost a lot after the ice storm when it warmed up then froze ., the ones that did the best were the Knock Out roses not fancy blooms but tough . I just cut down my last climber had several big ones they did not make it .
    Has she tried the sub zero type .. Gin

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    When my parents lived with me, my dad would keep lots of rose bushes of all kinds. Then when they moved out and I took over the gardening, I planted conifers for hedge, lavender, rosemary and buxus for lawn borders, ivy on the shared fence and kept the lawn neat and tidy. However, I kept 5 rose bushes.
    1) a huge climbing rose with plush yellow-pink blooms, approximately 5 m high (on a climber to a 1st floor balcony) which I prune heavily to rejuvenate it every year. My goal is to train diagonally and criss crossed, just like the pergola climber it clings to. It is just starting to bloom and the roses are HUGE, I mean, 15cm + in diameter. It's fairly sturdy, gets loads of sun (faces east) and shade in the afternoon, protected by the cruel northern winds by a 10 m greek fir. When the weather is rainy or moist in evening, it gets oidium "powdery mildew".
    2) A climbing yellow rose which gets oidion every 5 minutes, the blooms are mediocre but it grows like a weed. I'm training it to climb the balustrade to my front door.
    3) A climbing red rose which is more resilient than the neighbouring yellow one but grows very slowly
    4) A white rose bush which gets aphids 2 seconds after I spray it. However it's so old (although pruned short yearly) that I respect its presence. It's been there ever since I was in primary school.
    5) A pink rose bush which grows in a spot where the thorns nick my clothes when I leave my car in the garage. It is so resilient and grows so quickly than even though the lawn mower gets it, this year it made a stand and grew nice and tall. I'm keeping it.

    All get heavy pruning, get watered frequently as the lawn, fertilized with rose formula and sprayed for aphids and oidion. They get plenty of sun and the cold doesn't bother them at all, temps usually get down to -5C here in the winter.

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    Has she been planting them in the same place each time? Roses can suffer from rose "sickness" and you should never plant them where you have lost previous roses. They are VERY hardy, so should survive almost anywhere if fed , mulched and watered in their first year.

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    Only roses I have ever planted are the 'mini roses' that often come out around Mother's Day (planted up at my folks' home). They've comeback every year so far and have stayed very short (much to my relief). Never tried any of the others as I know my folks would not want to fuss with them.

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    Yay! lots of replies very very helpful...
    she does plant them in different locations every year but very similar, she has a long L shaped garden and thats where they usually go, just in different spots (cuz of the trees the area varies a lot in sun so she was thinking maybe that was it) but originally she was trying them in the front yard.
    i think the soil might be too thick now, we had two floods in consecutive years awhile back and it brought a lot of muck into the yard so it probably brought some heavier soil with it and it collected in those gardens cuz they're along the house (so the house probably acted like a big colander). also our yard seems to collect more snow then our neighbors (i know everyone says that, but the way the fences are i think the wind pushes it into our yard) so the melting period would be a lot wetter. this year i'll help her out and dig the whole area and put in something in for drainage and aeration.
    that site is very helpful, i passed along the list on it.
    you guys are awesome.

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    Here's my plush climber. Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiovannaD View Post
    Here's my plush climber. Enjoy.
    That is beautiful! Did it take long to train it that way? WOW!

    Cheers,
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