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This is a discussion on Wild orchids within the The Jungle forums, part of the Land Plants category; i'm not sure bout gunung tahan, maybe it is that one, the trees there was ...

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    i'm not sure bout gunung tahan, maybe it is that one, the trees there was as high as god knows how high,.. maybe 20 metres. also it had one very big bat cave. i remember walking in to the bat cave just walking, was wide, then it got narrow and narrower to the point we had to crawl,.. and the guanos was about 15 cm thick,.. practically was breathing guano inside. crawling right infront of me was a girl (wiht all do respect, sorry to say this, she was rather obese), so she had problem getting through,.. while too late for me to turn back since there were quite many people behind me too, also had gone too far in.. thankfully she still could squeeze in till we got to a big space again inside the cave. first time that i had my face and all clothes covered with guano. good experiences,... i'm sure you have been there bang zain, i think that place is famous. i agree about the energy, too tired can't enjoy any view at all, also mentality,.. i remember one time in indonesian forest i had to throw my last water bottle , made tough choice cause i was too tired to carry anything and it was getting dark, had to go very fast to meeting point, but too little energy... strangely there are always extra energy during critical times. if i ever go again, i think i'll stick to small ones too.... just thinking bout it makes me tired
    also thankfully in this thread, could see the good parts of the view from computer. thank you bang zain for posting all these..

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    I love this thread and the photos. Thanks so much! Rated 5 stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lijun View Post
    i'm not sure bout gunung tahan, maybe it is that one, the trees there was as high as god knows how high,.. maybe 20 metres. also it had one very big bat cave. i remember walking in to the bat cave just walking, was wide, then it got narrow and narrower to the point we had to crawl,.. and the guanos was about 15 cm thick,.. practically was breathing guano inside. crawling right infront of me was a girl (wiht all do respect, sorry to say this, she was rather obese), so she had problem getting through,.. while too late for me to turn back since there were quite many people behind me too, also had gone too far in.. thankfully she still could squeeze in till we got to a big space again inside the cave. first time that i had my face and all clothes covered with guano. good experiences,... i'm sure you have been there bang zain, i think that place is famous. i agree about the energy, too tired can't enjoy any view at all, also mentality,.. i remember one time in indonesian forest i had to throw my last water bottle , made tough choice cause i was too tired to carry anything and it was getting dark, had to go very fast to meeting point, but too little energy... strangely there are always extra energy during critical times. if i ever go again, i think i'll stick to small ones too.... just thinking bout it makes me tired
    also thankfully in this thread, could see the good parts of the view from computer. thank you bang zain for posting all these..
    I'm not sure I went there but definitely I went Gunung Senyum in Temerloh Pahang where as you said the guano was very thick and smelly especially during raining season but it's very good organic fertilizer for orchids like vandas they responded very well along with inorganic. Just take one table spoon dilute into 2 liters of water than spray to the vandas after few weeks the leaves color getting more darker and oily.Before use make sure treat or use hot water to kill all the bad bacterias or fungi.Thanks lijun for sharing your experience here very interesting I like it.

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    your welcome bang zain,.. guano maybe i'll try if i ever go again,.. but i kinda doubt it,.. lol,.. i think i want to try the volcanic ash fertilizer,.. since sinabung mountain near medan rescently been coughing the ash. they say it's very potent. one reason why people keep moving back to volcanic mountain to grow crops because the land is so fertile,...

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    Thanks Bruce I really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lijun View Post
    your welcome bang zain,.. guano maybe i'll try if i ever go again,.. but i kinda doubt it,.. lol,.. i think i want to try the volcanic ash fertilizer,.. since sinabung mountain near medan rescently been coughing the ash. they say it's very potent. one reason why people keep moving back to volcanic mountain to grow crops because the land is so fertile,...
    Back to year 2001 when I went to Ciligon West Java very near to the border of Sumatera I noticed the Padi fields and the crops really very green and fantastic all due to Sulphur released from volcanic activities which when bind to some minerals will yield of sulphates which is good for plants ( S03 + H20.......H2S04 (Sulfuric acid strong acid).This strong acid when react with Pb, Fe will produce salts like Feso4 and Pbso4 definitely plants can take into their system very well through the roots.If you want to use the volcanic ash make sure test the pH first and make sure not too acidic definitely not good for orchids you can use pH meter or Litmus paper otherwise the tip of the roots will get burnt.

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    yes,.. also it gotta be just the right amount,.. cause the volcanic ashes who sits on crops too long also makes it rot (seen it on tv about impact of the eruption),... the farmers make profits from selling the ash everytime their crops rot from the volcanic ashes,... some trucks taking the ashes too to sell,.. but i don't know much about how to use it,.. thought it's easy,.. maybe i'll skip it for now,.. thank you bang zain for explaining,..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lijun View Post
    yes,.. also it gotta be just the right amount,.. cause the volcanic ashes who sits on crops too long also makes it rot (seen it on tv about impact of the eruption),... the farmers make profits from selling the ash everytime their crops rot from the volcanic ashes,... some trucks taking the ashes too to sell,.. but i don't know much about how to use it,.. thought it's easy,.. maybe i'll skip it for now,.. thank you bang zain for explaining,..
    I concur with you better use the recommended NPK which is easily available and easy to use or maybe you can try and use for the dendrobium crumenatum only as a trial since you have a lots in your collection, observe the outcome within 3 to 4 weeks if nothing happen and the plants characters improved well you can try for another orchids species.

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    Photo 1 and 2 is Bulbophyllum species.
    Photo 3 and 4 seedling of dendrobium species.
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    Podochilus species very tiny flowers and so cute.
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    Monopodial species I initially thought as a Tricoglottis further close up actually is other species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zainal abidin View Post
    P1 to P4 Aeredis odorata initially I thought it's vanda species but the seed pods tell me different thing, try to zoom in, lovely species with multiples keikis.I think more than 100 plants in this tree.
    WOW!!!! A whole bunch of Aerides in the wild! If I were there, Zainal, I think I would be happy standing under that huge tree and stare at the Aerides all day until I get a stiff neck. I just love Aerides of any sort whether in bloom or not. Your pictures are wonderful and your narratives are quite entertaining. Thank you, Zainal.

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