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This is a discussion on Snake in my orchid greenhouse within the The Jungle forums, part of the Land Plants category; Originally Posted by the dragonn I'm pretty sure it's a juvenile Pantherophis obsoleta obsoleta Bruce. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dragonn View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's a juvenile Pantherophis obsoleta obsoleta Bruce. They can be a bit tricky to id as juveniles but, having the location narrowed it down.
    Herps of Arkansas: Texas Ratsnake (Pantherophis obsoletus)
    They have a variety of common names, Black ratsnake, American ratsnake and Eastern ratsnake to name a few.
    Yes, that is him! So, not poisonous. Can they bite still? Since it is a young one, I expect there may be another one or two in the greenhouse.

    Cheers,
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    Yes, Bruce they can bite. I am pretty sure all snakes can bite. Would just be some sharp needle sticks though.

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    Sometimes a non-poisonous snake bite can be really bad. If I'm correct a couple species carry bacteria in their mouths which can cause a harmful infection if the bite isn't cleaned properly and promptly. Also their teeth are pretty sharp and the problem is if they bite then twist their head they can break off teeth in you. And its a pain to pull them all out.

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    Hopefully these guys will be as scared of me as I am of them and we can leave each other alone. haha... Jeeze...I don't want to get bit!

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    They are probably MORE afraid of you, then you are of them, Bruce. Since they are not poisonous, if you are quick, you can grab them in back of the head ( so they can't bite you ) and deport them easily. Snakes normally have many babies; depending on which snake it is, so be on the lookout for more. I'm sure that we'll be seeing some snakes of our own soon...and will have to deport the poisonous ones. ( I DO NOT PICK THOSE UP! ) Betty :-)

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    Oh Bruce!!! I know I shouldn't be laughing, but OMG tell me how funny that is, the way you described the whole scene Lol
    I would probably react the same way as you though only to find out that it is a poor inoffensive baby snake

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMos View Post
    Oh Bruce!!! I know I shouldn't be laughing, but OMG tell me how funny that is, the way you described the whole scene Lol
    I would probably react the same way as you though only to find out that it is a poor inoffensive baby snake
    Hahaha... I can sure laugh about it now, but at the time, I thought I was 'king of the world' or at least 'king of my greenhouse' hahaha... but then that guy decided to jump out of a cattleya right in front of my face! I can't remember the last time I moved so fast! If that little guy would have landed on me - or worse, If my back had been turned and I was watering the other side and he came down on my neck from behind - well, I am pretty sure I would have died. Yep Dead. I still get chills thinking about it. I have seen mice in the winter in the greenhouse (you know - run along a bench or scurry across the gravel floor when I start spraying water around) but a SNAKE!!

    Anyway, I am glad I got myself together and caught him and released him. (I even released him not knowing if he was dangerous or not !) I think he is beautiful and the link that Steve (the dragon) shared to the website with a photo of this type of snake shows that he will get more beautiful with age. I wish I could go back and move him back into the greenhouse and he and I could agree to leave each other alone. I am sure he was hunting mice as I have not seen any in there this winter and that is so unusual. We always have one or two field mice in there during the cold part of the year. I hate putting out rat poison, but they do damage not only to the plants, but in the past have chewed electrical wiring and when we had a regular tank style water-heater (before we replaced it with a tankless one), they built a nest in the base of the heater and that could have caused a fire. So, I suppose this snake was doing me a favor. I did not put out any poison this winter and had no idea he was helping us out.

    You know, I think it would have scared me even if I saw him from several feet away, but having him jump from above head height to the lowest bench in the greenhouse and being less than a couple feet away from it - well, that really was pretty scary. hahah... I am sure if there had somehow been a camera filming the whole scene it would be the hit of youtube What a silly mess I was.

    Glad you had a good chuckle, Eric! I can laugh now too and I suppose if that snake scared me that much, I must have scared him too by catching him, putting him in a bucket, taking his photo, and transporting him to the other side of my yard. So I consider he and I even.

    I just hope if he comes back or has any family still in my greenhouse we can keep a nice long distance from each other. I don't imagine I will go into the greenhouse barefoot anytime soon again! hahah...

    Cheers,
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    This is so hilarious, but on a more serious note, I'm happy for you that it was not any kind of poisonous or even 'bigger' snake
    I hope that you won't have any more nasty surprises in future and be 'King of your greenhouse' back soon

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    Based from the head and body pattern, as well as the coloration, the snake is actually a juvenile Emory's (or Great Plains) ratsnake, Elaphe guttata emoryi. They are placid, harmless snakes.

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    That is so funny! I wish I were there to watch the show. J/K

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