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Rot at the ball of the roots, Help!

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    Hello Everyone!

    I have a little Phal that has what looks like rot at the root ball... When I first mounted this little guy a week ago I did notice this but at the time it was only a small spot and other than that it was very healthy. I was starting to get a bit concerned because it was very perky when I mounted it and now it's lot all its firmness in all the leaves and this spot looks to be a bit more than double in size from when I looked at it a week ago. I have also noticed that the roots are starting to shrivel up under the rotted area. It dose have some roots above where this rot is (if thats even what it is...) Today I gave it a good watering because it looked like it was not getting enough water from my daily misting and since this morning it seems to have perked up a bit. I also clipped off it's spike so that it could focus on recovery. This little guy was in moss when I got it but the media was dry (light brown)

    Can you guys help me out???
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    Rachelle...I sent you a P.M. about your orchid. Have you read it yet? Betty :-)

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    You can trypouring Hydrogen Peroxide on the rotted part to fizz out some of the bacteria.

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    Thank-you Betty and Cindi for your help.

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    You are more than welcome, Rachelle...that is what we're here for...to try to help one another...:-) Betty
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    Hi everyone I'm new here, and this thread caught my eye because of a similar problem I have with a Sed. japonica. This baby had a similar speck of black at the crown when I got her a few months ago. She has been on a very slow decline ever since and now has barely an root left. I have her mounted now but I think she's too far gone. Two great leaves left though.

    Any ideas as to what the name of the bacteria is more specifically? It affects certain types of monopodials I think, not sure. Even some orchids with fungus can show growth, so I'm thinking, something more specific? Fusarium comes close but it might be something else. Btw she's already been doused with Hydrogen peroxide, Listerine, and a small sprinkling of cinnamon to the affected area (crown), not the roots. Even if unsalvageable I would love to know what this is. Tia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Hi everyone I'm new here, and this thread caught my eye because of a similar problem I have with a Sed. japonica. This baby had a similar speck of black at the crown when I got her a few months ago. She has been on a very slow decline ever since and now has barely an root left. I have her mounted now but I think she's too far gone. Two great leaves left though.

    Any ideas as to what the name of the bacteria is more specifically? It affects certain types of monopodials I think, not sure. Even some orchids with fungus can show growth, so I'm thinking, something more specific? Fusarium comes close but it might be something else. Btw she's already been doused with Hydrogen peroxide, Listerine, and a small sprinkling of cinnamon to the affected area (crown), not the roots. Even if unsalvageable I would love to know what this is. Tia!
    I honestly don't know the name of the bacteria...but when rot hits it's devastating. You will want to take extra precautions washing your hands, steralizing anything that has touched that plant and always segragate a plant you are treating. Any water that drips from that plant can spread the rot. Increase your air flow and be careful not to splash water onto leaves when watering. Sorry to hear about your plant...it happens to us all sooner or later.

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    Thanks Connie, I realized going into this that certain casualties are inevitable. The only other thing I can tell you about this bacteria is that it shuts down the plant almost completely, but will not show you any decline (or growth) for a while.

    I'm curious to see if she will thrive at all and attach herself, because hopefully it means that she never had the above.

    Rachelle, good luck with your plant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Thanks Connie, I realized going into this that certain casualties are inevitable. The only other thing I can tell you about this bacteria is that it shuts down the plant almost completely, but will not show you any decline (or growth) for a while.

    I'm curious to see if she will thrive at all and attach herself, because hopefully it means that she never had the above.

    Rachelle, good luck with your plant!
    Thank you Sol

    Have you tried using Sulphur Dust on the rotted area. I was given advice to use that on my phal and she seems to be sustaining herself and even firming up a bit more... The Sulphur dust is a fungicide that will kill the bacteria and help you Orchid heal. I've also been told that cinnamon can be dangerous to use on the roots because it will dry out everything that it touches (even healthy roots). If you can get your hands on some sulphur dust for plants (I got mine at a store with a garden center) and just snip off the roots below the rot (with sterilized clippers), then rinse the roots under water after, apply the sulphur and it should come around.

    Hope this will help you out!

    Rachelle

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    Hi Rachelle, cinnamon is strong and works quickly but if you are real careful. None were applied to the roots, just a touch to the crown area affected and only because I really don't think she has a hope for recovery.

    Thanks for the recommendation, I will add the sulfur dust to my list of supplies but I'm afraid I've given up on my plant.

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