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Advice needed to save poorly phal

This is a discussion on Advice needed to save poorly phal within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; I've just rescued a phal from my neighbour who had potted it in normal compost ...

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    Unhappy Advice needed to save poorly phal

    I've just rescued a phal from my neighbour who had potted it in normal compost and watered it too much.

    As a result a lot of the roots have rotted, I have taken it out of it's pot and cut away all the mushy and dead roots.

    1 brown root 5"
    1 greeny brown root 3"
    1 green with a white tip 2"
    4 white and green tips 0"

    I washed it in luke warm water, should I have added a little house hold bleach to the water to kill germs?

    It is not currently in a pot as I need to get a pot and bark organised, how long will it survive out of the pot?

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    Not to worry. Phals don't grow in pots in the wild so why hurry to pot it up? When I have phals bare root, I soak the roots once a day in tepid water for 10 minutes-sometimes 15. Bleach might be a bit too strong for the struggling plant. Do you have any hydrogen peroxide? The 3% solution strength is what I use to soak roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindiras View Post
    Not to worry. Phals don't grow in pots in the wild so why hurry to pot it up? When I have phals bare root, I soak the roots once a day in tepid water for 10 minutes-sometimes 15. Bleach might be a bit too strong for the struggling plant. Do you have any hydrogen peroxide? The 3% solution strength is what I use to soak roots.
    Thanks for the advice.

    I have some Hydrogen Peroxide but is Lavender fragrance so decided not to use it in case the lavender chemical was harmful to the plant.

    I repotted it but I think it is still poorly, the newest leave doesn't look very healthy to me as it is mottled with white spots on it.

    It is sitting near a window but not in direct sunlight and I have been spraying it in the morning and watering once weekly.

    What would be the best thing to do now or is it a matter of just waiting.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cindiras View Post
    Not to worry. Phals don't grow in pots in the wild so why hurry to pot it up? When I have phals bare root, I soak the roots once a day in tepid water for 10 minutes-sometimes 15. Bleach might be a bit too strong for the struggling plant. Do you have any hydrogen peroxide? The 3% solution strength is what I use to soak roots.
    Unfortunately only had Hydogen Peroxide with Lavender and didn't want to use it in case the Lavender chemical affected the plant.

    I washed the roots as best I could with water then cut away the rotted roots and repotted the plant in some bark.

    I have it sitting near a window where it gets light but not direct sunlight.

    I have been watering it once a week and spraying it.

    I'm a bit concerned about the new leave which has white spots on it and is mottled.

    Is there anything I should be doing or is it a matter of waiting?



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    As I dound it



    Thanks for the advice.

    I have repotted it but I think it is still poorly, the new leave is a bit mottled and has white spots on it.


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    ifit is growing a new leaf then most likely it will grow roots. Just be patient and make sure you have it in low light for a couple of weeks. also make sure humidity is high

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    Hi, Rodgy...I've saved them with a lot less roots than you had...I believe you did right by your plant, and that it will be O.K. Betty :-)

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    Thanks for the support, will wait and see!

    BTW sorry for the double post.

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    Had to perform emergency surgery!

    The new leaf went black and flopped over so I cut it out with a scalpel it looked like the problem was travelling down into the crown.

    Was this the right course of action?

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    Totally black? Sounds like bacterian or fungus rot. Do you have Physan ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawbla View Post
    Totally black? Sounds like bacterian or fungus rot. Do you have Physan ?
    No unfortunately not, I googled Physan and it isn't available in the UK.

    Maybe someone will know of a similar product that is available in the UK.

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    I can recall there is one... Here there is a post from a user about it: http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...tml#post208002

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