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Oncidium Sharry Baby

This is a discussion on Oncidium Sharry Baby within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; The wonderful thing about orchids is that six people can give you six different recipes ...

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    The wonderful thing about orchids is that six people can give you six different recipes for producing a spike , and none will work for you - then you find a seventh way...
    My Sharry Baby is growing with masses of other plants, tend to be overshadowed by them ( no extra light here) and if it had a 20 deg temp drop the icicles would start to form since the greenhouse has not been above say 20 degrees since last summer...yeah - I miss the warmth not to say heat too !
    And there is a spike now about six inches high and growing fast.

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    I have a sharry baby that I just cant seem to make happy. When I got it the roots were infested with what looked like ants. I am not so sure they were ants tho. I treated it and got rid of the insects but it almost killed the plant. I have had it in bark/char/lava rock since and nothing. Yesterday it got knocked over and fell out of medium. The roots are not growing. So I put it bare root into a plastic container with a little damp sphag in the shade. What medium should I use now? I am at the end of knowing what to do to save this little thing.
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    Cindy, I have had the same "type" problems with small rooted oncidium types as Sharry Baby.....Until I decided to experiment with a different medium. I took my plant, cut off ALL of the dead/rotten roots, and re-potted it in small white rocks ( the stuff in bags at big box stores ) and now I re-pot ALL of my oncidiums this way. Of course, I like to experiment, and I don't know if you do! It works for my oncidium types...it might work for you, too. Good Luck...Betty

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    Thank you Betty. I am trying that right now, will send photo tomorrow.

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    Cindy, Go to your home page, and turn on your "private messages" I think it's at the top left side...Gook luck & let me know how it goes. Betty :-)

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    A long time ago it used to be legal to collect orchids in the wild, and in UK we had a trader who offered, about twice a month , "orchids from Columbia", "Orchids from India", "Orchids from Brazil".... etc etc.
    Very cheap too - but then it was a long time ago when money was different . ( I built my first orchid collection that way - several hundred species - all different ).
    But the point is that it took several months (?) between collection and he plants getting to the person who had ordered them. The collectors deliberately dried them, in fact, to avoid rot in packing cases. When one unpacked the parcel, there were no live roots at all.
    What we used to do was immerse for a couple of hours in a bucket of warm water, with some sugar added, and maybe a drop of disinfectant, so as to "rehydrate" , and then piut the plants on the greenhouse bench , with no compost or pot, just leave them there, perhaps just misting with water every few days. We waited for new roots to emerge. Most of the time they did !
    Even then we didn't rush to pot them up, we waited until there were more than one or two roots , and until they were perhaps an inch or two long. Then tiethe plant to a stake, and put the stake in the pot and fix it firmly in position, and then - but only then - so gently add compost.
    After that the plant would be mostly sprayed rather than watered until you were pretty sure that it was really active. It took a year or so to get a good plant growing properly, but yes it happened - and incidentally up to about the late 1970s that was the way all orchid species came to us , no-one, but no-one, raised species from seed.
    Maybe that wort of "establishing" the plants was done by traders rather than amateurs in many/most cases, but that was the way they did it , just the same as we private growers did. There was no other way..

    in short, don't be in too much of a rush to get your sick plant into fresh / different compost. Just watch it, mist it, wait for it.

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    Invaluable. I have 3 plants that are going to be sitting on the bench now. There is really nothing better to do anyway. I have tried all except the little white rocks and nothing. So nothing it is.
    Best way to see what is happening too eh?
    This group is so useful. Thanks guys. You're the best
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    Hahaha..Connie you are spot on in your observation! I used to spend so much time staring at my orchids praying to see something different every day..I dont bother so much nowadays..which makes it more fun when I see something new!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsetman View Post
    in short, don't be in too much of a rush to get your sick plant into fresh / different compost. Just watch it, mist it, wait for it.
    THIS! This is the most important lesson I learned this year, and it came from the good folks on this board. No telling how many orchid deaths I would have accelerated while trying to refine my "sphag & bag technique", which seems to be a popular first line of advice on many other internet orchid communities. It certainly felt counterintuitive to take a rootless plant, stick it in an empty pot and try to ignore it, but my first attempt at sphag & bag failed so quickly and spectacularly I knew there had to be a better answer.

    So far, I have had 5 completely rootless mini-catts that I stuck in empty pots back in October. Two developed roots about 6 weeks later and were wired into pots and are now happily growing. One just started a new growth and the other two. . .look remarkably good for doing nothing for almost 6 months.

    I still have to figure out what I'm doing wrong in my repotting process that seems to cause a lot of root death, but I am much less terrified when it happens--most everything that had this problem is happily growing again.

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Size:  4.1 KB Too true. Very good information. I have tried the spag and bag, with great success on some Phals. It has worked for me. It has to be carried out correctly. But I completely understand Dorsetman's advice on the "old style". I will try this the next time (I hope not too soon), and see how this procedure works. Just to experiment.

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