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    Default Zygo orchid unknown

    My Zygopetalum unknown has just about finished flowering (Jordan you have seen it) now it seems to grow what looks like another? spike. The pseudobolbs look quite shriveled up. Is the plant drained from energy and should i not allow this spike to grow by cutting it off? Of course i like to keep the spike, but the plant's best interest is most important to me though.
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    Its always helpfull to post a pic Laura. Go to advanced options and click the attachment tab. Then when your onto that, click basic download and download up to four pics i dont think i have seen this "new growth" yet......

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    Shriveled pseudobulbs means a water supply problem. Maybe not enough water on an ongoing basis, or media that isn't retaining much moisture, and maybe low humidity adding to the problem. Maybe too much water, and media staying soggy and breaking down, causing roots to die. Could be as simple as the pot being too small (drying out fast) or too large (staying too wet). Probably a good time to take it out of its pot, check the health of the roots, repot in fresh media, and make sure the new pot is the right size.

    Are you sure it is a new spike coming, or could it possibly be a new growth begining to make a new pseudobulb? Either way, I would repot and let the plant decide whether it can sustain the new growth or spike. The 'common sense' idea that a plant can bloom itself to death is more superstition than science. If it is that sick or weak it will abort the spike, or it will die just as fast without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaphMadMan View Post
    Shriveled pseudobulbs means a water supply problem. Maybe not enough water on an ongoing basis, or media that isn't retaining much moisture, and maybe low humidity adding to the problem. Maybe too much water, and media staying soggy and breaking down, causing roots to die. Could be as simple as the pot being too small (drying out fast) or too large (staying too wet). Probably a good time to take it out of its pot, check the health of the roots, repot in fresh media, and make sure the new pot is the right size.

    Are you sure it is a new spike coming, or could it possibly be a new growth begining to make a new pseudobulb? Either way, I would repot and let the plant decide whether it can sustain the new growth or spike. The 'common sense' idea that a plant can bloom itself to death is more superstition than science. If it is that sick or weak it will abort the spike, or it will die just as fast without it.
    I have seen the plant not a month ago, and it definatly has a healthy root system. Pics i have seen on Facebook from about a week ago, and they are all healthy....i would say it is possibly just an older bulb, or as you said, maybe it is lacking a bit in water. The pot is perfect size for it.

    I also dont think that it is a new spike, because their flowering season is finished for the year here now, and my Z. mackeyii is shooting up new growths now........

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    Hmm I tried to upload some pics but they have a size problem (and I have no idea how to resize - ahum)
    (Jordan pics up on my fb)
    I think it could be under watering. I have it on top of my turtle tank for humidity but yes the media does look on the dry side. Should i soak it?

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    What i would do, is just run water out of the tap through the pot for about 15 minutes every two days for the next few weeks. Zygos like water, and lots of it! Are you coming to hear Fred Clarke speak on the 8th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpLaura View Post
    Hmm I tried to upload some pics but they have a size problem (and I have no idea how to resize - ahum)
    (Jordan pics up on my fb)
    I think it could be under watering. I have it on top of my turtle tank for humidity but yes the media does look on the dry side. Should i soak it?

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    Here are Lauras Pics....she has retired for the night.....

    First, is definatly a spike....a bit out of season for NZ though, indoors or out!

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    Lastly is the previous set of blooms

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    I have a very similar NOID Zygo and it's older Pbulbs look the same. The newest growth is nice an plump. I would guess it's normal. Here's a pic of the plant. Sorry no pics of the Pbulbs right now


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    I don't know about this plant specifically but what I've noticed about older p-bulbs that are not producing new leaves are more shriveled than newer ones. I think that's pretty normal. From the photos posted it looks pretty healthy and is probably being under-watered. I have to water my Zygo ever 2-3 days compared to once every 7-10 days for the rest of my orchids.

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