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Trichoglottis brachiata - cultivation advice

This is a discussion on Trichoglottis brachiata - cultivation advice within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; I had not realised that Orchidwiz gives cultural directions, but having looked them up I ...

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    I had not realised that Orchidwiz gives cultural directions, but having looked them up I have to express some reservations.They are - in this case at least- a direct quote from Chas. Baker - and I expect everyone reading this will be familiar with the Baker & Baker books.
    One of them gives directions for all the Dendrobiums - now no-one, but no-one, has seen all dendrobium species in the wild and sat by the plants for a whole 12 months taking notes of temperature, rainfall, sunlight (!).
    I have checked out the instructions for the very few species I have seen, and it seems to me ( this is my deduction) that what baker has done is researched the herbaria, noted where plants are said to have been collected ( and this information is sometimes a bit dubious for various reasons including that of a collector not wanting to reveal the location, or being deliberately misleading); then Baker looks for met data at the nearest possible location. Thus in the case of D. nobile he quotes data from Chiangmai. However, whilst D nobile undoubtedly could be found near Chiangmai once upon a time the location for the plants was likely to have been up to a thousand meters higher - because the met station a is at the foot of the hills, and the plants grow up the hills - and in fact those hills include the highest mountain in Thailand...
    Maybe I'm wrong, but the whole scheme s just too simple for me to believe !
    As to brachiata - or philipinense - the light quoted by Orchidwiz is about the same as is quoted elsewhere for Neofinetia falcata - now can anyone tell me that they grow and flower Neo. falcata and Trichoglottis phillipinense under the same conditions ? I grow both of mine together - one flowers - will the other ?

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    I got lazy and didn't check Hawkes or Bechtel; if you haven't gotten any responses by the time I check this thread tomorrow, I'll look in those.

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    awwww, i love this one, but it is expensive in ous country, the cheapest is 500 peso per branch (12 dollars) yet it is a local plant which should be cheaper like the others 50 to 100 peso (usually 1 to 2.5 dollars).

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    Geoff,
    I checked Bechtel, Hawkes, and several other general references. All generalizations. Culture: "as for tropical Vanda species", "moderate shade".

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    Thank you for taking that much trouble. I guess that growing advice is not of any real use to to anyone living in a totally different climate from the person giving the advice ! Here in cool temperate England, the advice for vandas is to give the plants every scrap of light that you can - assuming that you are already growing orchids in a glasshouse ( and you can't grow them anywhere else, over here ). So "moderate shade" means something quite different to me, I suspect: it's what we would think suitable for say Masdevallias....

    Well, I am grpwing my Trichos with the Rrenantheras and Vandas, which means hanging up in the roof of my glasshouse - but there are two layers of 40% shade cloth on but due to come off shortly ; also rather too much algae on the inside of the glass , as a result of my activities in spraying all the hanging plants more or less daily - and due to come off when I do a winter clear-up towards the end of the year .
    I used to think that it would be better if actual light values were quoted , but when i read some of the figures suggested ( like 3000fc ) I wonder just what they are using as a light meter - and I say that having once been on a journey through South east Asia looking at orchids in th wild, and taking light readings everywhere . 3000 fc is not moderate shade , it is a figure occasionally seen at mid-day in the growing season, in the upper part of the forest canopy only....
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    Indeed. We could not grow Vandas here like they're doing in southeast Asia. Although I haven't been there, my understanding is that cloudless skys are a rarity. In my part of the States, we have summers filled with cloudless days with low humidity and (this summer) many 100f+ days.

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    The growing season for Vanda coerulea in Thailand, is the wet season - not clear blue skys fo very often then !

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    This is mine that blooms with filtered sunlight most of the day.Name:  image.jpg
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    very nice! another one on my must have list i only have the far less attractive trichglottis smithii

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