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Encyclia cordigera disaster

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    Hi,

    I'm new to this forum and to growing orchids. Went a little mad after visiting the WOC held here in Singapore this November and bought a couple of cattleyas, oncidiums and some other random orchids which were too hard to resist. Thanks for the video on repotting orchids; the cattleyas seem to be doing well.

    Desperately need help with my encyclia cordigera. After the flowers dropped, I unpotted it and discovered the roots were not in good condition so I put it in a plastic pot with coconut husk chips and threw out the sphagnum moss it came in. Subsequently 1 of the 3 pseudobulbs started to rot so I cut it off and sprinkled some cinnamon powder on it. The 2nd pseudobulb is also brown but since it's still firm, I left it alone. I also put it in a claypot with charcoal. Not sure if I've got it right this time.

    Should I have cut the rotted section all the way through (ie roots as well)? Should I remove the 2nd brown pseudobulb as well? Does it need to be potted deeper into the pot with the roots covered or is it ok to leave it exposed? There's a small shoot (? or eye?) growing by the side of the healthy bulb and I'm desperate to save this plant.

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    Carie, I pot my encyclias in 60% medium size bark, 20% charcoal, and 20% perlite. This mix is soaked overnight in water, before potting. I also use plastic or clay pots with lots of slits for water drainage. I also DO NOT use cinnamon on roots, (only cuts on leaves ) because it's too drying. I use horicultural sulphur, instead. The sulphur kills bacteria. If the plant were mine, I would re-pot it into the above mix. I would of course, cut away ALL dead roots & bulbs, before re-potting. Just MY opinion...Betty P.S. Welcome to the Orchid Talk forum!

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    Carie, welcome to the forum - I hope we can be of help to you. Betty gave you some good information in the above post - and she has more experience with encyclias than anyone I know. I hope you do well with this and all you orchids.

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    Hi Betty,

    Thanks for the advice. Turns out removing the dead roots and bulbs wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. While I was trying to find a gap to cut through and separate the dead bulb, it sorta gave way and to my surprise I managed to pull it off and it separated neatly along with all the dead roots. Had very little trimming to do on the roots of the live bulb. I couldn't get horticultural sulphur and was hesitant to use the fungicide the guy at the store recommended (I have a cat that is curious about everything) so decided to try the hydrogen peroxide dip first. Anyway, it's got just a handful of healthy looking roots but I'm much more hopeful now.

    Can I bother you with a few more questions? How often do you water? Do you let it dry out (like dendrobium orchids)? Do I start watering right away or should I leave it alone for a while? Do I water lightly (mist) or drench it? I usually take my dendrobium orchids to the bathroom and turn on the shower. They're still alive despite my efforts to kill them

    Thanks again and Happy New Year!

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    Carie, after re-potting, (always into media which has been soaked overnight ) I put my orchids in a little less light, and I do not water for seven to ten days. More often than not, orchids are killed by receiving TOO MUCH WATER! And, because a lot of orchids have storage for water in their bulbs, they do not need water for an extended period of time. I believe if you try this, you will find it works for your orchids. Happy New Year to you also! Betty

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    Hi Carrie,

    Like you, I bought a couple of Enc as well at the WOC. They were all packed in moss and I repotted once I got home in pure charcoal. Unfortunately, after a couple of days, the roots started drying out considerably so prepared the following mix:

    1 part sphagnum moss, 1 part coconut chips (had to cut this down to the appropriate size) and 1 part wood chip.

    I proceed to fill out just the top 1/3 of the plastic pot that I am using and the plants seems to be liking it so far. Here are some pics for your reference:







    Also I try to keep the top layer moist and I guess the new roots developing is a sign that they are doing ok. Time will tell.

    Good luck.

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    Thanks Kevin!

    cheers,
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    Hi Kevin,

    Wow, your garden looks amazing! Makes me want to drill holes in my apartment ceiling so I can hang more plants. The plastic pot with the square holes must be great for ventilation. Gotta go get me some of those ... and maybe a couple of new orchids to go in them

    Thank you for the pictures, it helps a lot. I've been stuffing the poor plants all the way in and maybe cramming it to tight? Didn't realise they should sit so high up. Would it be bad to adjust my orchid again so soon are potting it?

    Thanks,
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    Hi BD, You're welcome.

    Hi Carie,

    I got those plastic pots ---- Vendor information removed - see FAQs on Posting---- The micro-climate in my garden plus my watering habit requires hanging pots like these. It took me a while and killing a couple of plants before I finally found the right combo. Still, my Enc roots looked too dry so I did what I did, top moist, bottom dry. So far so good. *fingers crossed*

    I think you should get those pot or something similar first. Repot the plant using a pure charcoal medium with the plant sitting on top. If you are experiencing the same situation where the roots just looks too dry, just prepare the mixture and work it into the top portion without having to repot the plant again. Hope that helps.

    Good luck.

    Kevin

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    Hi carie,

    Maybe you should try to withold the watering and just spray the plant in the morning....

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