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Challenged Sharon King 'Yuki'

This is a discussion on Challenged Sharon King 'Yuki' within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; Originally Posted by GenevaDad Great photos, but I got a few questions. I your last ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenevaDad View Post
    Great photos, but I got a few questions. I your last pic are you hanging the "victim" psb. down? You say "depending on victim" to determine which way to hang in bottle. What tells you which way to suspend the plant?
    Many of my actions and care approaches simply reflect my character and personality, somewhat a tad bohemian or rustic maybe. All the learning curves, mistakes are pretty much now a positive thing and the 'rule' book? has had many pages ripped out and thrown away and replaced with mine in pure response to 'MY' grow area demands as very few are the same, slightly but not 100%. From this, advice, experience and opinions can be and are offered to assist and help others and also to act on or give a person some general guidelines resulting in their own conclusion derived from the minority or majority of info submitted on a specific topic. The enquiring member will then adjust/ improvise info as applicabe to suit their situ.

    Exact science aside and because i proof read my post before hitting 'submit', I make sure my opinions/ actions cannot be mis understood as specifics. Yes, Bob the brassia and oncid psb are suspended upside down, this method has proved/ resulted in absolutely no disadvantages and my objective for new shoots are satisfied and gained. In my logic it would be high risk to let plant have direct contact to wet media at bottom and will rot. The method in my madness addresses also no contact with sides ,its just pratical. Another risk due to type of victim - oncid/ alliance/ brassias physically naturally have bracts/ leaf joints when growing up towards the clouds. In this situation (bottled) the pockets would collect moisture and rot. Hanging down eliminates risk - pre-emptive strike. The type of victim refers to those plants in your collection and the risk assessments/ possible ailments one can expect when cultivated 'normally'. Size, shape, form, monopodial, sympodial.

    The roots have rotted and i have made an attempt to rectify it and there is no point addressing a problem only to add insult to injury and promote possibily of other problems arising. A brick in the dominoe effect. Sorry bout length of posts i cant help it, i rabbit on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kassie View Post
    Matt, can you elaborate on the above? Do you find that seaweed extract is causing problems similar to SuperThrive? I haven't noticed any irregular growth issues with it. The only downside to seaweed I've identified is that it gets gunky if not used the same day, which makes my friend with the automatic injection misting system less thrilled with it than I am.
    Hi Kassie. Have not encountered any problems resulting from seaweed extract whether phytotoxicity or physical deformation. Sufficient time has passed for me trial wise to confidently submit my opinion on both products. I would use S.Thrive again yes yes yes, no hesitation but requires a much much stricter discipline in terms of dosage. Very concentrated and in a funny way not very pratical (for me at mo) as I have no requirements for such safe dosage in the large capacity of water required but some allocated time would address the scale down measurement and applicable water storage.

    Whether it was fear-mongering or not, the task of flushing roots with plain water to avoid toxic build up was necessary with S.Thr following researched advice and in order to corroborate other growers experiences i too observed physical/ abnormal growth deformity over seasons and reduction in root quality. Definelty a 'safe dosage or less than recommended' issue. Fertlizers are used in strict amounts and same product used while S.Th and seaweed x wre in usage. Many of my plants can suffer fertilizer damage/ burn at the slightest dose revealing symptoms over a week or two and not just orchids either so risks are addressed plant species to plant species.

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    Thanks Matt for the excellent graphics. I understand the idea behind the pop bottle humidity chamber but isn't there a need for some air circulation? Should the bottle be opened (the bottom removed) from time to time to allow some fresh air to enter. Put another way; how long should the "victim" remain bottled up? Until new roots appear? You're dealing with a real novice here. Thanks

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    yes, forgot bout that bit , change/freshen the air daily by removing bottom or lid/cap as you observe for fungal or tissue problems or cut slats in sides like cattleya pots or even a window.as a open/close door. i use the open/close window for nepenthes propagation from seed and deflasking young orchid plants. All share a requirement of high humidity essential for survival at such a vulverable stage.

    When freshening the air in bottle all i do is remove base, have a good look,spray upwards with fresh water to freshen interior of bottle, replace base and re hung. Continue until fresh new white roots with bright green tips. Catts only produce new roots on new growth.

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