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Sick Phal!

This is a discussion on Sick Phal! within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; Just to clear this up - the pot it is in just has one large ...

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    Just to clear this up - the pot it is in just has one large hole in the bottom. Thanks for sharing your story coeruleo, sounds like your plant was in a bigger problem than mine! I've had trouble finding a good orchid fertaliser. I've read that i should stay away from N as urea, or atleast not have much. The only fertaliser I've found like this is in pellet form. Should I just go with a liquid that has the least amount? should I try buying on-line?
    Thanks for all the help!!
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    Where do you live?? I am not a senior grower but I have many problem Phals that are shockingly recovering. I literally have 2 that are rotted so bad its almost a stump. SO, I went in and trimmed all the icky roots off, then i put it either in a firmly packed Phal mix soaked for a whole night in hot water, then potted it the following morning, then water seldom...hence where you live I think that'd help. Or with the other, whos recovery was shocking because its also stump like, and i mean NO ROOTS, into a lightly packed Sphag moss. I mist the tops heavily just to keep damp never wet and let its sit in my south window all day getting lots of sun nutrients. Granted my windows are tinted so watch out for severe light and sunburn. I sort of just, leave them alone and you would not believe this......after the first 3 weeks of the sick Phals treatment, I was sure death was at the door, my leaves were yellowish and wrinkled, it just looked aweful.... I have new leaves coming on my sick babies! I have brand new baby leaves emerging form the base of my top most leaf...I see stumps of new roots coming from above all the icky roots and in due time will anchor healthy and better than before. My plant is starting all over again. My leaves below look just like yours and with some light dampness, sun and love my guess is the old wrinkled leaves will just fall off and it'll continue to create new roots and leaves. i hope it gets better if it already isn't...

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    I had read where some people have had luck reviving rootless Phals using water culture.
    I had 2 Phals that were tightly packed in spagh. Of course when I went to repot them I discovered all the roots were brown and mushy.
    I cut all the roots off and put the stubs of the rootless phals in a plastic container with water up to the start of the leaves.I change the water weekly.To my surprise,with in 2 to 3 weeks,both have put out a new leaf and 1 has sprouted a new fat healthy root.
    Looks like both should make it. I will beusing this water culture method on all my sick Phals in the future. You might want to try this method also.
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    Oh my! So you literally have them just set lightly in a pool of water? Any light amount recommendations? Your Phals look better although mine are pulling through, you think I'd mess things up if I did it now?

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    My roots literally look like this.

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    i think the referrences i have seen for using non-urea fertilizers usually are for when you have orchids like vandas without medium in their pots, like hanging with roots all out in the open. when potted in bark, the normal over-the-counter products seem to work fine for me for phals. the urea is needed to help brake down the bark and release natural nutrients for the plants. just use them at 1/4 what it says on the label, once a week or so.

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    Tiffany,
    I have them in water with the water level slightly below where the leaves start.
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    I just noticed there is a second root starting.
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