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Controlling cattleya new growths to best present buds and flowers ... input please

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    Default Controlling cattleya new growths to best present buds and flowers ... input please

    What different techniques are employed to insure that new cattleya growths mature in a manner that best presents there flowers ...

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    Begin by staking the new growth and training it to face forward. After buds develop, do not turn the plant.

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    Too start off Bruce has given you the two best techniques. People underestimate the power of light in determining the orientation of the flowers. The buds will usually grow towards the light, make it a point that it receives bright light from all directions equally when the buds are developing in this way they segregate better and do not cluster towards the light source. There are some other techniques I have seen being used, but it depends on how experienced you are, and how obsessively you want them to be perfect. One such technique is the use of fine soft lead wires. The wire is wrapped around the stalk of the developing bud. Then you can easily bend the stalk manually and the stalk will retain its shape because of the wire. After a few days once the bud stalks have hardened and their position is fixed, the wire can be gently removed or clipped away. Two points of concern with this technique, 1) the stage of applying this wire is very critical, something that will come with experience. It is fairly easy to snap the buds and loose the flowers. 2) And secondly the wire is made of lead, and if precautions are not taken lead can be toxic to you and your plants. This technique is very effective and used by master growers who exhibit their specimen Cattleyas and Phalaenopsis at exhibitions such as the Japan Grand Prix.

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    What happens, when there are 2 or 3 buds on the stalk. Could anyone advise.Name:  Lc Aussie Sunset 'Cosmic Fire'.jpg
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    Other than staking, watching the light and wiring as has been mentioned I will place packing peanuts between the buds on clusters that I want the flowers separated on. You can easily break the sytrofoam peanuts to make them the size u need.

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    In the first picture, I successfully did that. But the second orchid, I think I was a bit late. Therefore, the right time is critical.

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    Another method, one I frequently use, is to give a bud that appears to be planning on opening upside down or sideways is to gently give the developing bud a quarter twist. This is repeated daily until the bud is in the correct orientation. This does take practice since as with the wiring method Amey mentioned, it is possible to snap a bud off. One also needs to know ones plant of course -- if one has a plant whose flowers are supposed to open upside down, trying to "right" them would be a particularly bad idea.

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    Interesting.hmm. How many buds have you successfully twisted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosie View Post
    Interesting.hmm. How many buds have you successfully twisted?
    Honestly, I've lost count. I do it at times to errant buds without really thinking about it.

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    gosh, i just position my plants so they will 'grow towards the light' and then once they open i place them however i please, and this goes for all my orchids. i like my plants to look natural, i grow more oncidiums than catts though, so the light is a huge portion of getting them to look natural. i hate the look of stakes, and would rather my plants look more natural than standing at attention. i do notice the flowers are more tightly clustered to the stem, and not so fanned out like when i buy them, but i'm not unhappy.

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