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Help with a Paph Hilo Magic Shift

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    Hi I was hoping someone here could help me figure out what to do with my Paph Hilo Magic Shift Orchid. Everything was going fine, the plant is nice and healthy. The problem is that it was getting ready to bloom and it seemed that the bloom got to heavy for the spike so it started to droop. When I tied it a stake like my other orchids it formed a severe kink in the spike and the spike above the kink was very weak. When I went to water it last the bloom fell off. So I have a few questions. What did I do wrong? How do I avoid this in the future so I can actually enjoy the bloom? And now, what do I do with the spike? Should I cut it all the way down? Is there anyway it will attempt to respike and bloom again? Or do I have to wait awhile?
    This is the first time I have successfully kept any orchids alive for more than a week and now I have a few that are all nice and healthy, aside from this error. Hopefully I can get some help so I can keep all of these for quite some time.

    Thank you in advance for any assistance,
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    Cut the spike off about an inch above where it leaves the plant. It will turn brown and wither. This orchid will not bloom on this growth again. It will, however, grow a new growth and bloom on that growth. When staking the next spike - do so loosely. I suspect that the attachment to the stake was too tight to allow for growth. Adjust the stake and clip as the spike grows to maturity. Good luck.

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    Thank you for your reply. I did cut the the spike as you suggested. I don't think I tied the tie too tight, but I will certainly make sure I don't do that the next time. When I bought this orchid it was already in spike and starting its bloom cycle. It came with no stake and wasn't tied. Should I start that sooner next time? When I adjust the stake and clip as it matures is there a point I should keep it, say the midway point between the flower and leaves? Sorry to keep asking so many questions, but I got a few more orchids that I am starting from the very beginning, and I want to make sure I get it right. I've gotten to the point where I can keep these beautiful plants alive when I buy them already bloomed. Now I want to enjoy the whole process.

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    WIth the paphs, I like to keep the clip or tie closer to the bud so that the bud stands up correctly. If you tie/clip only in the middle of the spike, the bud could hang down (especially if you spray water) and sometimes even break off.

    I believe if you are going to stake the spikes, then do so from the begining. Train the spike along the stake and keep adjusting the clip so it doesn't pinch the growth or damage the spike. In the wild of course orchids don't have stakes so, your orchids should be fine without. I only stake the ones I plan to show (or if the flowers are too heavy that they are going to break the spike). Most of my paphs right now in bud/ bloom are not staked and look great. It is all up to you.

    Good Growing!

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    I lose a ton of buds off my single paph. If I get them wet when watering they rot. If I spray insect stuff, fertilizer, or the wind blows wrong; I lose a paph bud. I use twist ties and make sure there is room for the growing spike to expand. Sometimes clips on paphs crimp the growing spike. Hope it blooms for you next time...

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    Thank you Brutal Dreamer. Having no stake/tie in is what cause the initial kink in the spike. It was actually blooming upside down and I only noticed that when I did tie it. That little icon was actually the face I made when the bloom fell off when I was watering it. Thanks again for your help. I will follow your advice, and hopefully see it fully bloom next time.

    That's good to know Cjcorner. Now I will make sure I am extra careful with my paphs and hopefully avoid some of these problems in the future.

    Now I get to play the waiting game for them to bloom, and I am looking forward to the process

    Thanks again to the both of you,
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    No problem Rees! Why not get another paph in bud and have a go? Maybe a green colored one this time!

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    Might want to go to the RVO search bar and put in paphs to see how others stake/ tie theirs.

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    Funny you should mention that Brutal Dreamer. I've been eyeing this Newberry Halo Emerald Brocade paph. Unfortunately, I am having difficulty finding any that are blooming or about to bloom at the moment. What kind would you suggest?

    I will do that Katherine. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rees View Post
    .... What kind would you suggest? ...Rees
    Just find something that strikes your interest. No need to be too specific when learning. I just think a green paph would be really something nice and different for your collection. Of course my favorite green paph is one that I won an AOS award for and was able to name the cultivar. Paph. Henrietta Fujiwara 'RVO OrchidTalk' HCC/AOS

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