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A Healthy Phalaenopsis or not ?

This is a discussion on A Healthy Phalaenopsis or not ? within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; Hi all, I am a new member who tries to grow a phal in St.Andrews,UK ...

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    Default A Healthy Phalaenopsis or not ?

    Hi all,
    I am a new member who tries to grow a phal in St.Andrews,UK and as a result I struggle a lot in the week.Here are the pictures since I could not put any photograph;

    And also there were droplets near the body (especially from the parts where It will flower ) and and in another link of this forum It says a healthy sign.I put it to the pot of Jubel and I need your advice of the health of this orchid.Please help me,I really care this orchid.
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    The droplets I assume are syrupy? It can happen sometimes on growing parts of the plant naturally, but I would check to the presence of scale or mealies, really nasty critters which suck sap out of the plant. More concerning, is the fact the plant appears to planted in potting soil, which will rot the roots very quickly. The best medium in my opinion for growing phals is orchid bark, with a layer of sphagnum moss on-top if you have low humidity.

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    Droplets are normal. How many blooms(3 not good 5-8 good)? What color are the roots(silver and green good; yellow and black not good)? The foliage seems good although the pic is a bit dark.

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    I don't know what Jubal is, but, as mentioned, your orchid needs plenty of air at the roots. It should be in bark or other fast draining media and in a pot with plenty of drainage. The roots will rot very fast in any kind of soil or packed material.

    I can see why you'd want to save it, very pretty flowers.

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    Hi all,
    The roots seems to be healthy however the orchid branch was under the soil which made it rotten,and I had to cut the branch and this seems to be the only reason because a leaf was under the soil as well and these are the only part affected.I feel very sorry as I was unable to understand since I assumed the problem was in soil.In a week,I'll be taking this plant with me to Turkey since I am a student here and the weather just gets worse and worse.Then I'll be able to establish a warm,secure home and there will be a last soil change with spanghum moss and great quality moss to ensure all will be fine.I hope my phal will again develop a new branch and soon will blossom.If you have any recommendations for me to treat this beautiful lady after the last change,please do tell me.I will be able to take a nice care for 25 days and I want everything to go fine.
    Thanks a lot

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    I agree with Carolla on your media, in the picture it looks like gardening soil. The would definitely kill your Phal.

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    Hi all,
    I actually changed the orchid pot a to a clearer one with a new mix,however since some parts of the leaf and branch was under the soil they were rotten,the roots still seems to be okay and other areas which were higher in the soil seems to be unaffected.It was impossible for me to understand as I did not put the orchid to the pot in first place.Now It is waiting for the last pot change with moss when I go to Turkey since I am only a student there and the weather is getting cold,I decided to pick my phal with me -and - change the mixture again (as the new orchid soil that I bought is much more better,but not good).What would you recommend to me to do afterwards,any special care;If so how ? I hope It will again blossom new beautiful flowers like in the picture and branches over the time once she has the perfect place.

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    Yes, you will definitely want the whole plant part of the orchid to be above the media. Phals tend to bloom once a year, in early spring (for me), after a winter temperature drop. It is very unlikely that it will bloom until next year, it will have to send up a new spike and start over. It may not bloom then, depending on how strong it is. Many of the Phals you buy at a store or green house have been pushed to bloom when they are young, it takes a lot out of them and they will wait an extra year in the home to really get established before they bloom again. In my home, where it is really dry, some of mine bloom every year (the larger happier plants) and others bloom every couple of years. I just put the blooming ones on the table to enjoy and keep watering and feeding the others until they bloom too!

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    I use gardening soil for my Phals. It works fine unless all roots are buried. When I was a newbie I made this mistake and the leaves turned green and meshy (oops). But now I mix it with bark. Where I live straight bark just does not hold moisture (even when soaked) because it is just to hot and humid. I needed something that would. Straight garden soil held too much moisture and rotted the plant. So I blended them and haven't had a problem since.

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    Dear Carolla,Actually It is okay that my phal won't bloom for a certain amount of time,I hope that I will see some kind of development or I want to see some of kind of development that the plant essentially says me " Look I am trying to deal with the situation ";seeing the progress just makes me more excited overall.

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    Dear kspalding,
    I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who made that kind of mistake.Actually I believe that this mistake was essential because It pushed me to search more about my orchid,which lead to the discoveries new species and understanding the different nature of phals and orchids.

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