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This is a discussion on Orchid Rescue Question within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; Hank, do not give up hope. I have saved a Phal that is was in ...

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    Hank, do not give up hope. I have saved a Phal that is was in a similar situation to yours. The above advise is good; however, I would not put it in the refrigerator because that may shock the plant. Go with a smaller pot, I suggest plastic. Phals like to be snug in there pot. You want to keep the roots moist, not wet, then let them semi-dry. Keep a watch for scale and mealy bugs, sick plants attract pests. Use a potting mix that keeps some himidity but allows the roots to breath. You do not want the few roots the plant has to rot. Phals are fairly hardy plants so you have a good chance of saving this one. Also, the plant will need good, filtered, indirect light- do not put in direct light- but don't put it in a place where it gets no light either.

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    Personally, I would not pot it up yet, but would 1) soak it in a liquid rooting hormone solution (KelpMax at 1 ounce per gallon) for about an hour, 2) put it in a clear plastic bag, with-, but not touching a moisture source like wet sphagnum or a paper towel, to max out the %RH around the plant, and 3) place it someplace very warm and shady. Once it begins to grow new roots, I'd THEN pot it up, but keep the "greenhouse" around it for a few more weeks until it plumps up.

    Keeping the humidity at close to 100% is the most important: With no roots, the plant cannot take up water to replace that lost through the leaves, and it will eventually desiccate and die. With high humidity, that loss is slowed, giving the plant more time to recover.

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    Orchids rarely die. I have had roots that completely rot out and yet the orchid plant remains resiliant. They are willing to fight as hard as u are and it seems to me you are ready to fight. I have mentioned before, many of my clients say they have purchased "dire" orchids b4 and that miracle grow orchid mix has in fact worked miracles. With desperate roots I would reccommend not soaking so much. They are fragile and proned to rot. If roots are extremely short and few only remove rotted not the dead. I have seen many develop new growth off of the seemingly dead. Leave as much as you can until the roots strengthen then remove the un-needed. Are there any silver roots present? I cant tell. Definitely raise the humidity. Place it in a tray with stone and water. Even driveway gravel can help (orchids are in fact not as finicky as many would think). Need to know more about the condition of roots and not just how many and how big, but green, yellow, silver, black. Mushy, thick, thin, etc...... Please let me know. Until then mist the bark until moist at least twice a day (if not rot) but do not soak (new roots can rot off before getting strong).

    Bagging can also help with moisture that can minimize u overwatering new roots.

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    Since It is not with me I only know that the ones in the picture 5 is thick,not mushy (but mom cleaned some mush ones as well) I bought IBA that will arrive tomorrow.I am soaking them in a water that was poured from 2 lt water with half teaspoon of sugar for a day.I am open to any other comments and suggestion other than spaghnum moss and some American solutions since the plant is in another country )
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    What is your climate like? I have dealt with orchids all over my country (from Ohio to Florida) which provides several variated climates. Perhaps urs resembles one of them?

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    Hi,
    I am living in Turkey but I have a greenhouse-ish room that the temperature is around 25-28 C and the room is all surrounded by windows.By the I feel so sorry If somebody got it a meaning of I am not needing help from Americans,what I wanted to say that some products like KelpMax is not available in my country so I am looking for more general insight.

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    BTW, someone mentioned miracle grow orchid mix, I wanted to mention that killed my favorite orchid in two weeks. It went from being a huge 28 year old Phal to dead because the mix packed down around its healthy and ample rootball. For Phals, be sure to use an open bark system, let them dry out and I like to soak them for 20 minutes or so to really soak up the bark. I don't water very often, they seem to handle being too dry better than being too wet.

    Also, this is a personal experience, I've had terrible luck with putting my weak plants in a plastic bag, they all start to mold and rot. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong there.

    I think your plant has a lot of hope, it doesn't look that bad. I've never tried keeping a Phal in water like that, I have no idea if that's a good plan or not, but I wouldn't put it in the fridge, that's pretty cold for a Phal and likely to shock it. Good luck!

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    The only problem with bark is I guess I don't know how to care a plant like this in bark.The bark is pinus brutia bark and actually It is one of the best barks that is used in many phals in my country.I was soaking them for 5 minutes and maybe it was too long for the phal or maybe too short and the roots dried out so I am really confused to be honest.
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    Have you tried boiling the bark only to soften?

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    Since the person who gave me did not say anything I didn't boil the bark,should I boil it ?

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