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Am I doomed to fail!?!

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    First, I trimmed a bloom spike hoping to see it re-bloom, but it grew leaves instead... is that a good thing? Would it be possible to split it from the host and become a 2nd orchid at some point?

    The daytime temp.'s in Phoenix, AZ are ranging to 107 in the day time and upper 80's low 90's at night. And it will be that way for a few months.

    I only have 2 Phalae. now and would love to bring home a few more, but am reluctant considering these two are showing minimal growth.

    Is it possible to see them bloom if the area they're in indoors stays at 78/80 degrees? The foliage looks healthy.

    Is a change in fertilizer helpful? I'm using 19-8-16, which from what I've seen on You Tube is low in phosphate... thought I'd better ask before I change to what I've heard.

    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated,
    Terry

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    that is what we call a "keiki" which is hawaiian for "baby" and after it grows roots (about 3 inches or more) you can detach it and grow a whole new plant. orchids grow slowly, so don't panic. they do flower indoors, if they have enough light. never use any salt based commercial fertilizer at full strength. it can harm the plant. they are tropical plants, so the temps are ok, but they may want a bit more humidity, so i would focus on that, some sort of tray under them that can hold a bit of water, but not keep the roots wet. you can fill the bottom saucer with gravel and water so that the plant stays above the water.

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    Congratulations on the baby orchid! Now, when the roots on that baby get about three inches long, you can pot it up in its own pot and have a new phal orchid identical to the mother plant.

    I made a video on removing and repotting a keiki on a dendrobium orchid. The process is much the same, just a different type orchid. Take a look:



    cheers,
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    IMO, growing a keiki on a spent spike is bonus!

    Now you can have a plant to gift or to grow and know that it is here because of your care.

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    Excellent video Bruce! Very helpful and perfect audio/video. You certainly are talented in a lot of different ways...
    Cheers to you, thanks again -

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    This is fantastic news! I'm the only person I know that is even attempting to keep orchids... I need to broaden my circle of friends to include other orchid lovers.

    I'll be shopping for another this week-end. I had water in pebble trays but got plagued by thrips. Only recently have gotten rid of them but will set up wet pebble trays again.

    Thanks for responding and for the advice,
    Sincerely

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    Terry, do you know what the hybrid is? Some phals are naturally real "keiki generators", while others do so when they are under stress from poor culture.

    The outdoor temperatures are not an issue if the plant were kept well-shaded, but the lack of humidity is a major problem. Don't bother with the humidity trays. With your low ambient humidity and the added drying effect of A/C, the slowly-evaporating water will be dissipated throughout your home instantly, doing the plant no good whatsoever. If, on the other hand, you use a swamp cooler instead of A/C, that should help a lot!

    Adding to Coeruleo's good advice: when the keiki has sufficient roots, pot it up without detaching it from the spike. It'll get established faster.

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    Also, to add to what others say, generally Phals bloom after the temperature drops about ten - fifteen degrees for a while. All of mine that are happy enough to bloom (and yours looks fine) send up their spike in late Jan and bloom in Feb/March. Just be patient, you have a good chance.

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    If you want t o grow that keiki into a plant, keep it attached to the flower stem until it develops some roots a few inches long (ideally, 4 good roots) before you cut it from the mother plant. Then pot like any other Phal.

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    Congratulations on the keiki!

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    Thanks Traci, can't wait to see the first sign of roots. Thinking of building an ice tray to set my 3 phals above at night. It might not provide the humidity they need but it might lower the evening temp.

    Have to start with a small tray and one plant at first. What do you think?

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    Are you saying wrap a bag of medium around the keiki roots while it's still on the host plant?

    Thank you for the advice, I'll follow it.

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