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Miltoniopsis vs Miltonia

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    Default Miltoniopsis vs Miltonia

    How can I separate them? They look all the same! What is the difference between these 2 species?

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    Miltoniopsis are cool growers and Miltonia tend to be warmer growers. Miltoniopsis look more like colourful pansies, while Miltonia usually don't have that rounded look so they sort of look like an oncidium. I think the plants look very similar, but the blooms differ slightly. I don't really grow them so I hope I have it right. I just have one Miltonia that got dried up during my vaccation. If I happen to set up a shop light in a cool basement room then I might get some $10 Miltoniopsis.

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    I thought one of these is harder to bloom... but I don't remember which one?

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    Miltoniopsis are meant to be harder to bloom as they will quite often abort if there is not enough humidity, they may also only bloom partially for the same reason. Then there is the crinkling leaves if (again) there is not enough humidity. If the new leaves coming out crinkle it can impede the growth of the next leaves, that shoot up between the two halves (they are folded over) of the previous leaf, and the growth of any spike if the concertinering of the leaf is sufficient enough to block the passage of the new growth.

    Contrary to how they are normally named, Miltoniopsis are the big pansy looking flowers, that often have a heavenly floral scent which reminds me of roses. I always see them labelled as Miltonias though which is incorrect - but hey, European growers call everything in the Odontoglossom alliance Cambria so what do we know??

    As to the humidity issue, I had a NoID growing happily on my kitchen windowsill, until it got too hot in summer at which point the new leaves started to concertina in a big way. Now I have both of my two in my bathroom which has helped the crinkly leaves thing and they seem fairly happy as it is quite a bit cooler. I do get the odd it of crinkling in the leaves sometimes, but not enough to do any harm. Whether they will rebloom is another matter, I have a spike growing on my NoID, but I don't know whether or not the conditions are such that it will bloom successfully - we shall have to see!

    Does that help? I really don't know anything about Miltonias having never owned one, and all the information that you can normally google yourself to seems to refer to Miltoniopsis. Murray (Orchid-Man) has certainly put some really useful information on the boards before now so if you are interested in getting one of these, it is worth looking up his posts.

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    I'm interested in knowing differences in bloomless plants? Are they absolutely the same?


    Every information helps. Thanks!

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    Miltoniopsis usually have grey-green leaves that are shorter with a less-plump but more elongated pseudobulb than miltonia.

    This is my favorite article regarding species Miltoniopsis:

    Robert Bedard Horticulture : Miltoniopsis Culture

    Try this for miltonia:

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    Thanks for the links Clint, more food for thought. Love to expand my knowledge (it's sooo very limited now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartie2000 View Post
    Miltoniopsis look more like colourful pansies, while Miltonia usually don't have that rounded look so they sort of look like an oncidium.
    Thanks for that tip, Smartie. Now looking at pics, I can't figure out why I couldn't tell the difference before!

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