Shop Orchid Care OrchidTalk Orchid Forum Weather Station Links Nursery

Welcome to OrchidTalk Orchid Forums


The Friendliest Orchid Community on the Internet!


  •  » Learn to Repot your Orchids
  •  » Learn Orchid Care Tips and Secrets
  •  » Find the perfect Orchid for your Growing Environment
  •  » Chat with Orchid Growing Professionals

OrchidTalk - "Bringing People Together to Grow Orchids Better!"


Let us help you grow your Orchids better; Join our community today.


YES! I want to register an account for free right now!


Register or Login now to remove this advertisement.

Results 1 to 10 of 10

I won a phrag and a paph...cross culture q's

This is a discussion on I won a phrag and a paph...cross culture q's within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; I recently won a Phrag Besseae and Paph Spicerianum at a local orchid society meeting. ...

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Mrobert's Avatar
    Mrobert is offline Senior Member
    My Grow Area
    Under Lights.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Cyms
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Carmel CA
    Posts
    167
    Member's Country Flag

    Default I won a phrag and a paph...cross culture q's

    I recently won a Phrag Besseae and Paph Spicerianum at a local orchid society meeting. Unfortunately I am not a real paph/phrag guy.
    I've managed to find decent culture sheets for Besseae and Spicerianum but I was wondering if anyone had some tips for these specific crosses:
    The Besseae is 'bleeding heart' X 'colossal'
    The Spicerianum is 'boss' X 'st. elsewhere'

    I'd like to grow these in an east facing window that is has dappled-light (there is also a 100w CFL supplement).

    Thanks- Mateo

  2. #2
    bench72's Avatar
    bench72 is offline Moderator
    Real Name
    Tim
    My Grow Area
    Porch/Patio.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Paphiopedilums
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    5,480
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    Hi Mateo,

    Congratulations on your win... gosh I wish my society has Paphs and Phrags as prizes for their raffles!

    Now, Paph spicerianum is a fairly easy orchid to grow. Early morning light is good so an east facing window would be good for that. Just make sure the plant doesn't get too much of the day's hotter sunlight. As usual the moist but not wet applies and some air movement would be good, so open the window every so often when it isn't chilly outside. Temperature wise, this is a fairly forgiving plant and mine has withstood temps from 5 celsius to 45 celsius!

    Phrag bessae can withstand a bit more light than the spicer but again hot midday sun is a no no. Oh, and also, put the pot sitting in water. This species of Phragmipedium likes wet feet.

    So, good luck with the two new 'chids and looking forward to seeing them bloom!

    cheers
    pop

  3. #3
    Mrobert's Avatar
    Mrobert is offline Senior Member
    My Grow Area
    Under Lights.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Cyms
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Carmel CA
    Posts
    167
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    Thanks pops! Just what I needed.

    They're both already blooming and the bessea will soon have two blooms. I'll post pics in another thread this evening.
    -Mateo

  4. #4
    Jmoney's Avatar
    Jmoney is offline Senior Member
    My Grow Area
    Windowsill
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    paphs, phrags, catts, vandas
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    West Hartford, CT
    Posts
    2,978
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    use very clean water for the besseae and fertilize sparingly. it HATES salt buildup. the newer strains may be more forgiving, but the earlier ones also get ornery when the roots get warm. I only use clay pots and NZ sphagnum moss for my besseae. medium light at best, it is one of lowest-light phrags.

  5. #5
    Mrobert's Avatar
    Mrobert is offline Senior Member
    My Grow Area
    Under Lights.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Cyms
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Carmel CA
    Posts
    167
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    Thanks for the tip on the water, I use tap water for most of my orchids, but maybe it is time to invest in some form of clean water....need to research options...

  6. #6
    Jmoney's Avatar
    Jmoney is offline Senior Member
    My Grow Area
    Windowsill
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    paphs, phrags, catts, vandas
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    West Hartford, CT
    Posts
    2,978
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    NYC tap water is fine for besseae because it is low in dissolved solids. unless you have very hard water it probably won't be an issue, just go easy with the fertilizer. I might give it a quarter to half normal dilute solution every 2-3 weeks at most, for example.

  7. #7
    IdahoOrchid's Avatar
    IdahoOrchid is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Buhl Idaho
    Posts
    928

    Default

    I have also heard that besseae is one of the few phrags that do not like to be sitting in water. I tried that and I no longer have a besseae. But I am not for sure that is the exact cause as we have a pretty warm summer here as well.

    The best thing to do is to ask the person you got your orchid from how THEY took care of it before you got it.

  8. #8
    Mrobert's Avatar
    Mrobert is offline Senior Member
    My Grow Area
    Under Lights.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Cyms
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Carmel CA
    Posts
    167
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    Update on the besseae- It has produced 3 more blooms, but one day before the new bloom opens the old bloom detaches from the stem. Is this normal?

  9. #9
    bench72's Avatar
    bench72 is offline Moderator
    Real Name
    Tim
    My Grow Area
    Porch/Patio.
    Favorite Orchid(s)
    Paphiopedilums
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    5,480
    Member's Country Flag

    Default

    yep, very very normal!!! even though the bloom still looks like it is in good condition they will just do a kamikaze dive...

  10. #10
    IdahoOrchid's Avatar
    IdahoOrchid is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Buhl Idaho
    Posts
    928

    Default

    Pretty sad, eh? My bes finished its blooming and flower diving and then the whole plant took a dive.

Similar Threads

  1. Paph. niveum cross
    By orcoholic in forum Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: December 15th, 2009, 01:11 AM
  2. Very old Paph cross
    By Roy in forum General Orchid Culture
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: September 19th, 2008, 09:45 PM
  3. Paph unknown cross
    By Diane in forum Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: January 12th, 2008, 07:50 PM
  4. Guess the Paph primary cross
    By Ron-NY in forum Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: October 1st, 2007, 12:49 AM
  5. Paph. fairrieanum cross
    By Slipperhead in forum Paphiopedilum, Phragmipedium, Cypripedium IN BLOOM
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: November 17th, 2004, 08:44 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
OrchidTalk --An Orchid Growers Discussion Forum brought to you by River Valley Orchidworks. A World Community where orchid beginners and experts talk about orchids and share tips on their care, cultivation, and propagation.