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Ailing Phalaenopsis

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    Hi I'm new here. I have a problem with one of my phalaenopsis. As you can see in the pictures, the leaves have ridges and wrinkles, which I think is mesophyll cell collapse. I have been watering it regularly like my other orchids, so I'm not sure what is wrong. I'm thinking it may be exposure to too low of temperatures, since my brother will turn the heat completely off in our apartment, and I live in Michigan, so it's really cold. This has happened to other orchids of mine before, most of which subsequently died. I don't know if I can rehabilitate it or if I should just toss it. I'd like to prevent it from happening again. I usually have no problems with most of my orchids, and I've been growing them since I was 16. Is there anything I can do?
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    The new leaf is encouraging.. How cold does it get? Below 60? Below 50? How is the root system doing and how dry is the media before you water it?

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    Maybe, if you are willing to do the extra work, you cold set up either some lights or go the terrarium route. There are some here that live in cold areas that im sure will have some great advice for you.
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    Yes, it does look like it got too cold. I have had plants shipped in cold weather that end up looking like that. How is it doing since posting the photo. Is the new leaf still growing or has it died? I would keep it from getting cold again and see how the new leaf progresses. If that growth stops, then the plant may be seriously damaged. I sure hope not.

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    Sorry about the delayed response, the holidays were crazy. It gets below 60 at least, my brother always turns off the heat. Its with me at my house in SCS, MI for the holiday break where the house is warm. The roots are a little dry, and I let the medium dry out on top before I water again. I think the media its in right now might be too soil-like and keeps way too much moisture, which cools it down too much. Should I re-pot it in a coarser medium so that it drains a little better? I know they are epiphytic, so that's just my intuition, but I know I could be wrong. Or would re-potting stress the plant out too much?

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    Oh, and the new leaf is still growing, and the leaves seem to be starting to firm up at the base and turn a healthier-looking green. And thanks for the advice! I'm excited about finding other people who love orchids.

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    If you think the soil is keeping it too wet I would repot in orchid bark or you could cut back on the water until the plant firms up a little. Of course if you do the last option, you may find that the plant continues to decline. If it were my plant I would take a chance and repot, at the same time examine the roots for damage and prune away the dead ones.

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    Hi... just my 2 cents worth... but I believe that the palnt is sending you a strong message...
    when I see roots climbing up OUT of the pot like yours are... it is usually because the plant doesn't like what's happening IN the pot.

    I would immediately [gently] un-pot the plant... inspect the condition of the roots that were IN the mix... if any are shriveled or collapsed... cut them off back to 'firm' growth... and then make a new potting mix of medium [1/2 inch] fir bark and add in about 15% charcoal pieces... [like in your old mix]... soak it overnight... and put the plant in a new [clear would be best] container [with all of the roots down in the container]... fill it with the new mix... up to the base of the plant... set it on a humidity tray... and watch it daily for about a week to 10 days before even considering re-watering...

    I know that these suggestions seem complicated... but they really are not...
    what the plant is asking for is a chance to be exposed to a higher level of moisture than what it was getting... and the roots should soon start to show some green/growing tips... which is the best indicator of proper humidity.

    You might even try to put it in your bathroom whenever you shower... so it could take advantage of the higher humidity...
    If you want to contact me directly... send me a private message... and I will respond.
    Bueno suerte... Scotty.

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