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Phal spikes died and haven't grown back

This is a discussion on Phal spikes died and haven't grown back within the New Growers: Ask the Senior Members forums, part of the New Growers category; I have a Phal that was beautiful when I got it four years ago. Sadly ...

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    Red face Phal spikes died and haven't grown back

    I have a Phal that was beautiful when I got it four years ago. Sadly the spikes (both of them) died after the first year. The spikes were actually hollow so I read that you could cut them and they would grow back. Well, after nursing it for three years (yes, I just didn't want to give up) a spike has not regrown. The root system is healthy and there are always four to five healthy leaves. I fertilize it monthly and the plant remains vital but barren. Will the spike ever regrow? Any help is greatly appreciated! Cindy

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    I would suggest that you cut the spike now. Then put the plant on a weekly/weakly fertilizer schedule. Use 1/4-1/2 the amt of fertilizer the package calls for. I use 1/2 tbls to gal of H2O. Hopefully in a couple of months you should see a new spike. MAke sure the plant gets plenty of light...no direct sun.

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    Default Phal doesn't have a spike

    That won't work because there isn't any spike to cut.

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    Like some other orchids, like cymbidiums, phal's need a "cool down" to set a spike. Ibelieve I've read a day/night temperature difference of about 10 to 15 degrees. Don't know your location but it might be a bit late to force a spike...don't give up try anyway!

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    Have you repotted it yet? You may have a root problem. Also, i'd slide it to a locale that get's more sun. If you have a room that stays 10-15 degrees colder you might consider putting it in that room for about three weeks. Some phals need a temp. change between day and night. The nurseries have 'cold lockers' to place phals in so they can drop night temps which stimulates the plant to make blooming hormones and then you'll get a spike. It's called cold forcing. 70-75 daytime 55-60 at night. Some phals won't bloom without the temp. change, while others flourish in neglected dark corners. I think 'orchid' meant 'finicky moody plant' in a long ago language.
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    I agree that increasing the light would be the first step that I would do. An eastern exposure would be great where it would get morning sun and then bright light the rest of the day. I used to give my Phals a couple of doses of an Epson Salt solution in the early fall. (1 tbl per gallon of water) Also I found that a temperature difference in the fall seemed to be the most important and that would occur naturally for me.

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    I tried the cold temp at night with warmer temp during the day for the previous two fall seasons without regrowth of a spike. This past year I have only fertilized and it has been repotted. The roots are healthy and there are several of them. I haven't tried the epsom salt idea yet, so I guess maybe I should give it a try as I'm not sure what else there is to do for it. My friends think I am a bit crazy for not just composting it, but it seems like such a waste..... Thanks for the help!

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    Can you post a pic of you problem chid?

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    If all the other culture is correct, then I would up it's light level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-NY View Post
    If all the other culture is correct, then I would up it's light level.

    I agree. I would also give it a bit of a shock - repot it again or let it get very cold (not below 45 F), Sometimes happy plants do not bloom. It is the little bit of stress they get that reminds them to reproduce.

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