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This is a discussion on Anticip.......ation a bloom on my paph orchid within the **NOT IN BLOOM** All Genera forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; I posted this in the IN BLOOM section two weeks ago. I'm retarded: there is ...
I posted this in the IN BLOOM section two weeks ago. I'm retarded: there is a perfectly good place for plants in bud, and this is where that is. So, I'll reprint a bit of it:
It's now two weeks later, and I am so happy. She seems to go for 4 flowers in total. The first two have elongated their little stems nicely, considering I have to turn the plant around to get them to clear the main stem: I grow in the windowsill, 10 feet away from the windowsill, that is. Buds tend to grow towards the light, like a good plant should, and one can steer them in the right direction a bit.The last one, however, was a mystery to the grower. He got it as-is from another grower about to quit the business and all of the labels were missing. It's quite large with thick, rigid leaves which reminded me of philippinense, just larger and thicker with some dents in them, suggestive of respectable age. It came in a red stone pot with four slits in the sides of it.
Its got two growths, with a stalk in one of them. The stalk has one bud, and one large budding growth which look to me like one or two more buds are in an advanced stage of development. The sepals covering them are striped! It looks like a simultaneous bloomer! So, I figured it could, mind you, could be a rothschildianum or one of its sisters in the coryopetalum alliance. I shiver with antici......pation. A few more weeks and all should be clear.
I've looked at pictures of the stately coryopetalum alliance, but it looks like those buds are more round and plump, as well as more white. From my personal collection, these pointy buds occur in my maudiae-types. Slightly disappointed I was, but It still looks great so....
Yesterday, the first flower opened its tips 1/8" or so. This morning it had separated a quarter inch!(pic1)
Trying to look inside, I could see a small, thin ribbon-like structure inside.(pic2)
Attempting to backlight it was somewhat successful.(pic3)
Meanwhile, I resisted the temptation to support it better; it doesn't look like the best of presentations(pic4) and the stem is quite sturdy. It may even support itself if I had the balls to mess around with it in this stage. Should I try to draw the arch back a bit or should I just trust in the flowers to lift their heads when the time comes?
Five hours after pic2&3, it opened up even more. Yay! there are definitely two dark, thin ribbons inside!(pic5&6)
I am thinking philippinense, of course! Like bench72 remarked before, the guessing game is the fun part. Quickly got Harold Koopowitz off the shelves: Transvaal, Vanguard, Prime Child all have the typical Cochlopetalum broad petals and plump buds. Land Ahoy is not entirely impossible, especially if it's been crossed back to philippinense, me thinks. It's certainly no Michael Koopowitz or sanderianum, the leaves do not look right for that. Saint Swithin would be a dream, but lets be realistic: it's not. It wouldn't be. It couldn't. Could it?
A few more days should give the answer. Thank you for listening to my gibbering.
(I put the last two pics in a new post, just after this one. Forgive me, Bruce. Just this once, ok?)
Last edited by Paphlova; April 19th, 2009 at 11:30 AM. Reason: typo
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This SOOO reminds me of 'Little Shop of Horrors'!
Must have come from a prettier shop though!! Bet these will be gorgeous when they're fully opened.
Don'tcha just hate waiting?
Yeah, but if Audrey II was a real flower, it would be a Paph, no doubt. That movie cured my fear of dentists though: all dentists are nice, compared to Steve Martin..
it's looking fantastic Andries... I can't wait for the lovely petals to drop from the beak.
i'm guessing that it does have philippinense in the background... what the other parent is will be revealed soon enough.
Thanks for changing the title for me, Bruce. In my excitement I forgot I should be more descriptive.
Day two sees thing progressing as planned. I also had a decision to make.
The other day, I decided to re-pot or at least inspect the roots of, the only Paph. philippinense in the collection. First, because I thought it was starting to look shoddy, second because I realized its last blooming effort lasted just for three weeks and third because it was the only one who shed small pieces of material from the holes in the bottom of the plastic pot (I dip the pot completely in deionised water once every 7-9 days, with alternating low-strength fertilizer gotten from a specialist paph-grower, about 1g to the litre).
Shock and dismay! I lost about 60-70% of the roots due to what looked like a to wet and badly aerated mix. I don't know how long it has been in its mix up 'till then. I salvaged what I could, and made a mix of 40% boiled CHC, 50% small to medium bark and 10% dried spagh (the spagh was allready premixed with the bark when I got it). Since I have no experience with paph-mixes I hope this will do. Horticultural Charcoal is hard to get here and none of the growers I've spoken to use it.
I do hope phillip will be fine, its a nice plant with 3 big growths, one of which has bloomed, with one tiny growth of one-quarter of an inch and one of one inch. Needless to say, I am weary of what appeared as over-watering and decided to water once every 12 days. The pots feel light enough when I did and do though, and a stick-test confirms they are almost dry.. It's a fine line to tred, apparently.
Whilst on the subject of philippinense: as we've established there's phillipinense in Audrey's parents (thanks Cindi, looks like I have a name for her now!), it's interesting to ponder the differences. Size aside, Phil has a much more white bud and its petals appear to be much smaller, only growing to full-size after opening, effectively tripling or more their lengths. Audreys's seem lengthy already, coiled up in the lower part of the bud. If they'll grow more after opening is complete, I'll be a happy camper. Audrey will prolly have greenish sepals, but the color of the pouch is still a mystery. I think the pouch will be relatively small compared to the size of its sepals though. I gave it a helping of water three days ahead of schedule, reasoning that since it has no real bulbs, it would need this water to pump the bud into the final shape. Does this this make sense or did I make a mistake?
Oh, and the second bud has started to open in much same way as the first. I'll concentrate on the first one though..
Enjoy the pictures of Audrey day two, and one of my philippinense for comparison... Little shop of horrors indeed!