Oh wait till you see a specimen sized plant vanda lissochiloides .... if naokis vanda is 8 feet tall .... that's nothing compared to the capability of the vanda lissochiloides. One I saw years back in the nursery of a local breeder - it was 10 meters (yes meters!) tall (or something like that) and almost a meter wide from leaf tip to leaf tip. It was like an electric post. Every node had a spent flower spike just showing that was a good clone and very floriferous! Never saw that plant again after I heard that breeder closed shop years ago.