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    I haven't had a paph bud blast yet (fingers crossed) but I've broken a few spikes, and there's no way to describe how shocked and broken-hearted I was. The only "therapy" that works for me id to head right out and get another one - preferably spiking already, so I can indulge my need for immediate gratification!

    By the way, to rehab the rest of the plant, did you make sure to drench it well and mist the leaves? I also keep mine just above a humidifier, which seems to work pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauraec View Post
    I haven't had a paph bud blast yet (fingers crossed) but I've broken a few spikes, and there's no way to describe how shocked and broken-hearted I was. The only "therapy" that works for me id to head right out and get another one - preferably spiking already, so I can indulge my need for immediate gratification!

    By the way, to rehab the rest of the plant, did you make sure to drench it well and mist the leaves? I also keep mine just above a humidifier, which seems to work pretty well.
    Awww...broken spikes are the absolute WORST I would imagine. I've never broken one myself (knock on wood), but my kids have knocked over a couple of my phals and snapped the spikes. Fortunately, because they were phals, they just shot out secondary spikes and went on their merry way. But a broken paph spike? Ugh...that must be terribly depressing.

    I hear you with the whole "shock and broken-hearted" thing. I was SOOOO looking forward to the blooms on this one. They were absolutely gorgeous when I got it! It was my first paph. When we got home from vacation, I ran up to the plant and must have made a very loud, anguished cry, because my husband came running over shouting, "What is it? What's wrong?!" Then he saw me pointing speechlessly at my brown spike and withered buds. In true "non-orchid-person" fashion, he rolled his eyes and walked away, leaving me to grieve in private.

    Thanks for the advice on perking up the plants! I didn't think to mist or drench them, since the rest of their foliage looked fine. But you have a point...I will go do that now for sure!!

    We're actually going away again on Wednesday to visit family, and we'll be gone until Sunday. I'm going to move my paphs to our finished basement during that time. The basement is cool and humid, and there are areas that still get fairly bright, so I think the paphs will be happy there for a few days while we're away.

    Thanks for the tips about rehabbing the plants! I'm off to soak and mist my paphs to help them recover from the heat.

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    wow. 80's doesn't seem that high. is this one of those 'cool growing' paphs? i forget there is a difference between 'cool growing' and 'cold tolerant' sometimes and buy stuff that just wilts here in the summer, during the few weeks of 90's temps. i don't run the air or heat much inside, and leave the windows open, so it's a little warmer inside in the heat of summer, and can get a little brisk in the winter, and anything that can't take it usually gets weeded out the first summer or winter. i figure if i can handle it, the orchids should too. at least it's just the flowers. the plant will live. maybe next time it will bloom when you're not away. i don't do paphs much, haven't had a lot of luck getting them to flower. probably in too dark a spot. do they flower just once a year at a certain season? or whenever they are ready? if it is growing well, maybe it won't be a whole year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleo View Post
    wow. 80's doesn't seem that high. is this one of those 'cool growing' paphs? i forget there is a difference between 'cool growing' and 'cold tolerant' sometimes and buy stuff that just wilts here in the summer, during the few weeks of 90's temps. i don't run the air or heat much inside, and leave the windows open, so it's a little warmer inside in the heat of summer, and can get a little brisk in the winter, and anything that can't take it usually gets weeded out the first summer or winter. i figure if i can handle it, the orchids should too. at least it's just the flowers. the plant will live. maybe next time it will bloom when you're not away. i don't do paphs much, haven't had a lot of luck getting them to flower. probably in too dark a spot. do they flower just once a year at a certain season? or whenever they are ready? if it is growing well, maybe it won't be a whole year.
    Hi there -

    I'm not nearly an expert grower, but I do mostly grow paphs (and catts in the summer). Species paphs differ in their needs, and should be grown in an environment as close to their natural habitat as possible. Hybrid paphs, particularly highly hybridized ones (that means they're the result of many generations of hybrids), are more forgiving. While paphs are not cold growers, they're not happy with temps above 75F or below 60F or so. In fact, mine are inside and get about 72F, which is probably a little warm for them. I keep them a bit cooler by running 2 humidifiers near them - that helps tremendously. Mottled leaf paphs like medium light - near a bright window but no direct sun unless it's early morning. Green plain-leaved paphs like a slightly brighter situation - perhaps nearer the source of light, but still no direct light. More importantly, remember that, even when they're in indirect sun, being near the window means the temp climbs as the sun does, so check that out - if it's getting above 75F near them, they should probably be moved back. Humidity is crucial to paphs, and their medium should never be allowed to dry out.

    I've heard of paphs blooming more than once a year when they're in an optimum environment, but my experience has been that once year, maybe a little less is more likely. Also, some paphs - like rothschildianum, philippinense and kolopakingii, for instance - take YEARS, like up to 12, to spike at all. You're likely to have a faster spike on an established division than on a seedling. And some paphs are just plain lazy. I have one of those - Paph. Hilo Batman - which has many lush growths, but no sign of a spike anywhere. I've no idea what to do to about it, but the leaves are pretty.

    Note - once a paph has set the bloom, move it back from the light, hopefully to a slightly cooler situation - it maintains the bloom longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauraec View Post
    Note - once a paph has set the bloom, move it back from the light, hopefully to a slightly cooler situation - it maintains the bloom longer.
    Thanks! I was planning on doing that once the plant bloomed...would it have been okay to move it back a little sooner? I was worried the bud development would stall if I moved it from its usual home.

    I have two paphs (soon to be 3), and they are both near a bright window. They get about a nanosecond of direct sun as the sun passes past the window, but even that is dappled and diffused from the tropical plants I have filling the windowsill.

    That area gets morning sun from an eastern window and afternoon sun from a western window (both small windows, so direct sunlight is at a minimum), but the paphs are far enough back from the windows that they don't get much intense light. When the air conditioning is running, they're not getting too much heat either. There's a large ceiling fan that does a great job of keeping the air moving and circulating the cooler, air-conditioned air. But when we went away my husband turned off the fan as well as the air conditioning, and with the amount of light that comes in those windows, I bet that little area got pretty darn hot. The only other plant I have in bloom over there is a Anthurium (which likes the bright, indirect light), but that didn't seem affected at all by the heat.

    So, in the future, besides the obvious solution of keeping the air conditioning running or moving my paphs to my cool, humid finished basement when we go away, should I move a plant in bud back from the light as the spike is growing, or will that possibly cause the bud development to stall? I'd like to avoid this ever happening again...especially since I know it will probably be over a year before this guy will do anything momentous again. :P

    Perhaps I'll throw a party when this plant blooms next year. Or at least I'll celebrate with a well-deserved glass of wine, anyway! LOL

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