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This is a discussion on The Monster Cym No One Else Wanted - Now What? within the **NOT IN BLOOM** All Genera forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; These are photos of a giant overgrown Cymbidium that was on the raffle table at ...
These are photos of a giant overgrown Cymbidium that was on the raffle table at one of my orchid meetings - and no one tried for it. When all the other plants had been packed off, it stood there by itself, and as I was getting ready to leave, a very nice elderly gentleman approached me and told me that it was his, he'd had it for years and it never bloomed again because his orchid space doesn't receive enough sun. And, of course, then he asked me if I wanted to try it. He was so sweet and practically pleading with me, that I relented and put the monster in my box with the other orchids. I admitted that my deck got a lot of sun, and I've had success with blooming Cyms. So he carried the box to my car, happily relieved that someone would succeed where he had failed.
When I got home, I put it in one of the sunniest spots on my deck and pretty much ignored it, except to water it. Then it started tipping over all the time, and I brought it in today, finally, to take a closer look - it's more than obvious that at the very least it needs repotting. I've done that before. But I think this one also needs to be divided - the pseudobulbs have proliferated all wedged in together, and the roots have somehow replaced any medium it once had. The nice man told me there was a tag somewhere in there, so it has an id.
I've cut it out of its 4" tall plastic pot, and now I'm just looking at it and not knowing where to start. This is a typical box-store Cym. that comes with about 3 or 4 pseudobulbs and now has about 30!
I know I can research this or find a youtube video on it, but I just don't have the focus or energy to do that. Can any of you experts help?
Just to give you an idea of what this looks like, here are a few snaps:
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honestly, what i would do is not divide it at all. a good cymbidium deserves a huge, permanent pot to grow in. they do not like to have their roots messed with. they resent any disturbance and will sulk and refuse to bloom until they get over it. i would just place it into a larger pot and make sure it is deep enough, that lets them stay crowded and do well, giving it a mix that will survive a long time, like a gravel mix. people here put them in huge cement urns as centerpieces of their garden. when you see one with 10 spikes coming out of it, you will understand. just let them grow. they are monster space hogs, and they are supposed to be. i don't have space for the monster sized ones, so i'm one of these guys that gives them away when they get too big to deal with. sometimes i take a small division to keep, but it always skips a few years of blooming.
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oh, and our cymbs look so good in cali, because we trim the burned tips off the edges. seriously, we cheat. even gardening service companies here do them for you sometimes. they sell them that way. it comes from fertilizer burn and seems unavoidable. this is why i have switched to worm tea, hoping to alleviate the tip burning.
Thanks for the advice! It sounds a heck of lot easier than trying to divide this thing, and I DO have the right pot for it - and good medium.
I think it's going from a 4" diameter but tall pot into an 8"x9" one. I'm skipping 6" primarily because I don't seem to have one, but I think this will spread out fairly rapidly in the next couple of years. Would you cut or spread any of the roots out - when I researched repotting cyms a couple of years ago, the general consensus was to whack off (and I mean chainsaws in some of the videos I watched) that about 1/3 of the bottom. Phillip and I did that with my gorgeous, healthy Cym from the Atlanta Orchid Show of that year, did everything the video growers told us to do (and I think Geoff Hands was in on this, too), and then watched it as it gradually declined over the years - tragic. So, I'm a little tentative about repeating that procedure.
nope, just gently place it in and fill around it, unless the roots are unhealthy/rotted and soft. for a lot of californians, cymbs are our first orchid, and that is where we get the fear of repotting! they do not like it. some will skip years of blooming. cymbidiums should come with a label "look, but don't touch" whereas i can repot a blooming phal or oncidium with almost no effect.
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and those roots look really good and healthy.
I too came into possession of a huge clump of Cym Chen's Ruby but the vendor had already replanted it into a larger pot. As a beginner in cym growing I understand that they dislike growing in bigger pots and might take a bit of time to bloom again. After several months it is producing keikis like mad ... 4 so far.
I got a cymbidium last spring in a gallon nursery pot and bark medium. It's by no means over potted, though it seems to be able to use the space. It's not a pretty pot at all, the plant seems happy. It spent the summer outside and is still while I wait for cooler weather to try to bloom it. It'll have to come in this winter, I don't think they like snow and sub-zero temps! I'd like to repot it just to know what medium its in and have it in a more attractive pot, but maybe that's not such a good idea? The gal I got it from said it was a division off one she'd sold years ago, I don't know how long its been in that pot, probably not very long. Would you all recommend leaving it alone? Or, since it was a cheap sale NOID orchid, would it be ok to repot the way I want it and expect it to thrive?
I have also come to dread repotting, whereas, when I was really new at growing orchids, I repotted everything I could - often because it was in an ugly pot. Your Cym was recently disturbed, and is a recent division as well, so it's probably still traumatized. I would play it safe and leave it be - if the pot bothers your sense of aesthetics, you could place the whole pot into a prettier one - PROVIDED the pretty pot has free drainage AND a lot of ventilation, so that the air can continue to get to the ugly pot. Also, I'd leave it alone in the ugly pot unless it's in a place of great visibility. Once my Catts and other orchids are in bloom, I put them in decorative pots and enjoy them around the house. After they've bloomed, they might get repotted, or not, but they go back to row of non-bloomers, where many of them remain in their ugly pots, essentially. Unless the pot it's in already in an insufficient pot, as in, poor medium quality or insufficiently loose drainage, the I would leave it alone and really watch the temps when they start to go below 50. I have been told that the a hybrid Cym - not a warm-tolerant one are pretty darn hardy. I've left my own outside against the building until temps go into the forties During the DAY. They like it bright but they like a good near-freezing few days to start spikes. When you have to bring them in for the winter, transition them slowly and keep them in the pretty pots again. I wouldn't expect too much from it at this point - it may sulk for the next few tears
Good luck -
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