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This is a discussion on Vanda for discussion within the **NOT IN BLOOM** All Genera forums, part of the Orchid Photography category; Over a Very!!! long period of time, this Vanda has always been listed as a ...

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    Over a Very!!! long period of time, this Vanda has always been listed as a "hot grower, high humidity" etc lover. Hybrids from it require the same or are hard to manage.
    Well, I'm here to tell you thats a load of rubbish. "Depending" on your care & conditions.
    I have flowered, V. Roberts Delights, Ogden Phipps, Trevor Rathbone, Fuchs Delight, Gordon Dillon etc. Not like its done in Thailand or Florida but nice spikes 4 - 6 flowers of good color & size. The heavy V. coerulea line plants way better.
    My current & has been normal for many years is 8c (50f) to 40c (100f+). I have posted full house pics in the form not all that long ago.
    This plant I bought 4 years ago as quite a small plant. The current leaf span is 2 feet 8 inches or 83cms.
    I'll post the plant pic then the label ( hopefully true)

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    Forgot to add, we about to hit official Winter here & I have 6 or 7 Vandas/Ascdas in spike now! One happens to be V. Robert's Delight 'Black'. This is not counting the ones in flower now. 2 of these plants are 'Blues' which I would expect to flower in the cooler weather, the rest are Spring/Summer flowerers.
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    i have a few vandas growing on my balcony outdoors all year long in southern california. i have a few blues, and they take our winter pretty well, and i have a few others also that seem to be doing well. i bought all of them small sized and some are now getting to blooming size. any of the vandas from the himalaya region do well here, and so do many of the hybrids from them. i wish i had more space... i would get a ton more of them.

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    beautiful plant or should I say plants, healthy looking, but believe me growing vandas in Florida is the not heaven everyone thinks, but I see your point and have noticed such contradictions, look forward to blooms from this.

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    Was told something yesterday that may deflate my arguement with this plant. A friend saw a post of this elsewhere & said he had a plant with the same label ( maybe from the same Nursery) that flowered, nothing like it was supposed to be??
    Possibly shafted with another incorrectly label plant 'but' it doesn't alter the results for the other plants.

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    well, if the plants are seedlings and not mericlones, then they can be different from each other somewhat and still be siblings. this orchid is a cross of 2 different named varieties of the same species, but there could still be some variation, depending on what the two parents looked like. it's just like when your cat has kittens, they don't all come out the same color, but some can be quite similar. others might be different. try to find out what the parents look like. your temps are pretty mild, and you can grow a ton of orchids where you live. most recommendations on growing temps are just that, recommendations. i have found many plants that can handle my winter to lows of 45f even 42f if kept dry. most of my outdoor orchids get a bit of a rest, maybe not quite as much as the dendrobiums, but reduced watering. there are nights if it has been over a week and a half that i water some of them and don't put them back outside until morning to avoid anything lower than 45.

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    Concur with Coeruleo. Seedling siblings could be different.

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    I think there has been too much generalization re 'vanda' culture - many growers believe that vandas thrive in the hot, wet conditions as exemplified by the climatic characteristics of the equatorial rain forest. Vanda is such a diverse group; species occur from the cool foothills of the Himalayas to the hot, humid lowlands of SE Asia. Granted the majority occur in the hot and wet regions of Asia but man-made hybrids, using species from the different climatic areas of the vast continent, have resulted in plants that are very tolerant of a wide range of climatic conditions. Exposure to cooler temps to around 10 - 15 C for a short period of time (up to 3 months) seem to do these plants no harm; indeed this may even stimulate some recalcitrants to bloom. Throw in the other related genera like Arachnis, Renanthera, Vandopsis, Papilionanthe,Rhyncostylis, Aerides and other vandaceous into the mix, and you have a group of temperature tolerant plants that will survive under most climatic conditions .except the most extreme Arctic and desert conditions. Here.I use 'survive' and not 'thrive' .

    Blue vandas are mostly the result of crosses from V coerulea and therefore are more likely to tolerate lower temperatures, as V coerulea itself is found further north of the Equator where it is cooler. BTW a visit to Thailand's commercial orchid nurseries would be a real eye opener for most of us amateur growers. You will be variously awed, inspired, humbled, dumbfounded by the health and vigour of their vandas and dendrobiums . Those of us who struggle to produce 5 - 8 blooms on our strap leaf vandas will stare with wide-eyed wonder at the sight of spikes carrying 20 or more blooms. And the climate of Thailand varies from the equatorial South to the tropical monsoon ( hot wet summer, cool dry winters) of the North and more arid Northeast.

    @ Roy. I occur with Coeruleo. Your plant looks very much like a sanderiana. If I remember correctly the var T-Orchids was an alba form of sanderiana.

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    cattan,.. i've seen pictures from thai nurseries,.. their medium also very simple cheap stuff,.. but the orchids are great. i want to go there soon, the clay and wooden pots made in thailand also better than the ones in indonesia,..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lijun View Post
    cattan,.. i've seen pictures from thai nurseries,.. their medium also very simple cheap stuff,.. but the orchids are great. i want to go there soon, the clay and wooden pots made in thailand also better than the ones in indonesia,..
    I am sure you will enjoy yourself there, but with martial law and the unsettled situation there at the moment it would be more prudent to postpone your trip to a more appropriate time. You are quite right about the quality of the terra cotta pots , but the planting baskets, though still pretty are now made with inferior quality wood. They used to be made with teak and last a very long time.

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    I concur with Yew Sung. given the current situation, traveling in and around bankok is best avoided.

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