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    The first looks like a kolo, but I'm not sure if you consider a kolo bigger than a roths (leaves versus flower). Don't know how Iwan fits in.

    Seond one...let's see... small species include: barbigerum, charlesworthii, fairrieanum, henryanum, spicerianum, helenae, niveum, and exul. In my experience, exul is the smallest, so I'd guess barbigerum, which isn't much bigger!

    The third is moquetteanum?

    As for the Catt, there are three Brazilian spotted I could think of... I'm not an expert on the bifoliates, so I really can't narrow it down: acklandiae, amethystoglossa, or guttata. There are a couple of others with slight spotting, but I discounted those.

    I'll pass on the last two. Hopefully, not too bad for a SWAG! A good challenge, Pat! Of course with his collection, we could be looking at the rarest of the rare, with no chance to know what it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piper View Post
    The first looks like a kolo, but I'm not sure if you consider a kolo bigger than a roths (leaves versus flower). Don't know how Iwan fits in.

    Seond one...let's see... small species include: barbigerum, charlesworthii, fairrieanum, henryanum, spicerianum, helenae, niveum, and exul. In my experience, exul is the smallest, so I'd guess barbigerum, which isn't much bigger!

    The third is moquetteanum?

    As for the Catt, there are three Brazilian spotted I could think of... I'm not an expert on the bifoliates, so I really can't narrow it down: acklandiae, amethystoglossa, or guttata. There are a couple of others with slight spotting, but I discounted those.

    I'll pass on the last two. Hopefully, not too bad for a SWAG! A good challenge, Pat! Of course with his collection, we could be looking at the rarest of the rare, with no chance to know what it is!

    McJulie
    Oops... I made a mistake on the first two Here is the revision:

    1. Named after Atmo... I made the mistake in naming his son, Iwan!

    2. Third smallest flower of Paphiopedilum ...Paph. barbigerum, Paph. coccineum, Paph. exul and others are larger flowers than this species. I believe the smallest flower in Paph. species is Paph. thaianum (flowers as small as 2.5cm across), second is maybe Paph. helenae (flowers about 3cm across)... you named the pictured species in your list though, Julie...

    As for #3, you forgot another bifoliate Brazilian species... this one looks similar to Cattleya acklandiae...

    Here's what has been named:

    1. Paphiopedilum kolopakingii - Julie

    3. Paphiopedilum chamberlainianum var. latifolium - Elena

    -Pat
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    As for the usage of Paphiopedilum stonei var. latifolium, I believe that was only a trade name to describe the wider leaves... the proper usage of this taxon, though, is Paphiopedilum stonei var. platyphyllum... Paph. platyphyllum is considered a baisonym of Paph. stonei var. platyphyllum...

    I believe that Paph. kolopakingii is the second largest plant of Paphiopedilum... with these new species, it is hard to keep up. I know that Paph. ooii is also pretty large. Paph. gigantifolium has the largest leaves of them all, with a maximum leafspan reaching 1.2m (~4ft.) and 16cm wide (~6.3 inches) (lengths as per XPGDL)... some Paph. kolopakingii can have leafspans of 1m (about 3.5ft)...

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    Argh, do you know how long I spent looking for a Paph named after Iwan? Typical

    The only two spotty Catts I know are amethystoglossa and schilleriana but I have no idea how big either of them get.

    Thanks for the info re: stonei var. platyphyllum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Argh, do you know how long I spent looking for a Paph named after Iwan? Typical

    The only two spotty Catts I know are amethystoglossa and schilleriana but I have no idea how big either of them get.

    Thanks for the info re: stonei var. platyphyllum!
    Haha... Yes, the plant is named after Atmo Kolopaking, a collector from Malang. His son is Iwan Kolopaking...

    You guessed it right! The other is Cattleya schilleriana... it has opened up more today. Unfortunately, there is only a single flower, but another growth that is developing will put out some more buds

    No problem on the Paphiopedilum stonei var. platyphyllum...

    -Pat

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    Thanks, Pat - it was fun!

    McJulie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahon View Post
    Oops... I made a mistake on the first two Here is the revision:

    1. Named after Atmo... I made the mistake in naming his son, Iwan!

    -Pat
    AHA! Pat's being dishonest. I say he owes each of us an orchid by way of compensation for undo mental hardship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahon View Post
    You guessed it right! The other is Cattleya schilleriana...
    Woo hoo! I had no idea it was a mini.

    Excellent idea, Pavel

    It was definitely fun, I learnt a lot. Now someone has to guess the rest!

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    Default Ooops...

    I forgot to post the answers...

    1. Paphiopedilum kolopakingii
    2. Paphiopedilum niveum
    3. Paphiopedilum chamberlainianum var. latifolium
    4. Cattleya schilleriana
    5. Porroglossum teaguei
    6. Sacoila lanceolata var. lanceolata

    Right now, most are in bloom...

    -Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavel View Post
    AHA! Pat's being dishonest. I say he owes each of us an orchid by way of compensation for undo mental hardship!
    If you come down to Redlands, I will have plenty of plants to give away...

    -Pat

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