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Is she a goner?

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    Hi Guys,

    It's been a awhile but I need help with my paph. It's been a very dry winter here in NYC and I'm afraid my paph is on the outs bc of the temp changes and dry conditions. She is currently on the windowsill facing north, and I've started using a humidifier for her (and my) benefit. Anyway her leaves are brown and crumbling, the stem is still there but dry.
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    The two leaves in the upper left corner do not appear to be completely gone.
    Are there any roots left?
    If so, you might be able to save it by trying sphag and bag.

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    The top left part of the picture looks like a new growth but it's hard to see. If the growth with the spike has already flowered it is natural for a paph. to get rid of it when the new growth is growing. If this is the case it could be quite normal. I'm not sure about your exact contidions but growing paphs in pure sphag doesn't work well for me, in turn the roots could have rotted and that's why it's looking worse and worse every day. Check the roots and possibly show us a picture of them as well as the other (healthly looking) side of the plant. If the new growth (if that's what it is in the top left part of the picture) is also showing signs of dessication I'm pretty sure that the roots are not very healthy and as jkhom suggested a sphag and bag method might facilitate root and leaf grow and could ultimately save your plant.

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    I would dump it and start over. Looks terminal to me.

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    I'm going to check the roots early tomorrow and post, my Phal does the same thing. Loses all leaves and stem, then grows a new one in spring. I've got both of them in woodchips (cedar?) for better circulation. Will post more pics tomorrow, thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ischel1 View Post
    I would dump it and start over. Looks terminal to me.
    I'm sorry to say that I agree. You will probably have more enjoyment with a new plant.
    Perhaps we can help figure out what went wrong. I have a feeling it isn't low humidity because I have low humidity too in the winter

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    Ok so i took the plant out and cleaned it up a bit with some anti fungus spray, and I noticed there is actually new growth! So maybe it's not done, we'll see I'm going to have faith and hope for a bloom in the spring/summer
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    Also the stem is brown, I'm reading conflicting tips. Some say cut it and other says dont.

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    Also what is sphag and bag?

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    I think the stem you are speaking about this the spike the flower was on (the one with the dragonfly clip). For paphiopedilums each fan of leaves (or a single growth) only blooms once (a single spike). After that the plant has to grow a new fan of leaves in order to bloom again. Since your plant has finished blooming from the mature fan it has started to discard this fan and started to grow a new one (the growth in the front of the second picture). In addition, it seems that the plant might have been lacking sufficient moisture as the roots look dessicated.

    There is hope however (from me anyway) since the front root (in the second picture) looks to be healthy enough to save this plant. In addition, the new growth doesn't appear to be too badly effected by the lack of water/moisture. I would repot the plant in sphagnum moss with some small bark chips mixed in to ensure airflow to the roots. Don't let the medium dry out completely until you see the plant has recovered.

    The sphag and bag technique calls for encapsulating the plant in some make-shift dome to raise humidity around the plant. You can use the skewer that was holding the old spike upright as the tent pole and cover the plant with a clear plastic bag to create the higher humidity environment around the plant until it recovers. Do not keep the plant within the dome for weeks on end as it does need air circulation.

    I know it's painful to see one of your babies die but I always try to save them for as long as I can to ensure that I know what to do when it happens again at a later point in time. Good Luck!!

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