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Amabilis is dieing...

This is a discussion on Amabilis is dieing... within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; hi, I would like to ask you for an advice regarding my first Phal Amabilis. ...

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    Unhappy Amabilis is dieing...

    hi,

    I would like to ask you for an advice regarding my first Phal Amabilis. It has a sad story.. I bought it 6-7 months ago, it was in big white fascinating blooms. unfortunately, I had to leave for a month and after I came back home I found my Amabilis soaking in water! it had terribly rotted.. I pulled him out of the pot, cut its rotted roots (there was only one healthy left), treated the cut places with cinamon and put it back into new substrat. after a few weeks new roots started to grow. I thought I was the happiest person ever !! my Amabilis has survived! but maybe it was to soon to be happy.. now it's in a bad condition again.. I just don't know what is happening with its leaves.. after the roots started to grow I fertilized it twice (I think), maybe it was to soon? ..
    a week ago I noticed white fluff on the roots..
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    I thought it was mold.. the substrat was very wet so I pulled the orchid from the pot, cut its dark brown/black roots (you can see them on the left if the pic.. I didn't like the black area on the stem...
    it looked like this before the cut:
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    I treated its roots with cinamon and placed it in a pot without any substrat (as I know that Phals grow on the trees, so maybe it's not a bad idea to keep it that way for a while..)
    now it looks like this:
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    has anyone had a situation similar to mine? could you help me save this pour little Amabilis?

    thank you all VERY MUCH in advance..

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    The white fuzz is natural and part of the root. It is what makes the roots stick to things. The roots in the top to figures make me hopeful, they look a lot less in the later pictures. Did you remove any of the silvery roots? Maybe it is just the angle of the photo.

    But given you have the root growth, it should be possible to say it after repotting!

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    Do not keep it in a bowl like that. Repot into a smaller sized pot with fresh medium. To keep it bare root like that, you'd have to water it several times a day for several minutes at a time to keep it hydrated.

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    hcubed, I didn't remove any silver roots, as I know they are good roots. I removed only the black ones..
    I have heard some people speaking that this fuzz grows on the roots because of too much humidity in a pot.. that it is not dangerous, but it's a sign that there has to be some changes in watering schedule.. and that it has to be treated with cinamon.. the fuzz is in the first pic. on the greenest root. can you see it? maybe the pic is not good enough? o maybe I am wrong about the mold..

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    smwboxer, ok, I will repot it . thanks!

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    Jovi, Read through some of the posts on water culture (raising an orchid in water).This amabilis might be a good candidate for that. I have two phals in a shallow water pot. the pot is about 10 centimeters tall with about 2 centimeters of water in the bottom. The phals send some long aerial roots up out of the bowl, but a few short roots stay in the water. There are other people expirementing with other species of orchids in water culture, too.

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    is the fuzz soft or hard? if it's hard, ti could be build up of salt from the fertilizer. If it's soft it could be mould...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcubed View Post
    The white fuzz is natural and part of the root. It is what makes the roots stick to things.
    I've noticed white fuzz on some of my phals at re-potting time. Usually it's at the part of the root that is clinging to a piece of bark and won't let go. I always thought that kind of fuzz was normal, like some kind of hairs. That's what the first pic looked like to me, too, so I guess I'm agreeing with hcubed on this one.

    Anyway, I think you still have a good chance of saving it.

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    The fuzz is normal . Cinnamon is not good to use on roots just on cuts on leaves . I agree pot it up and place it shaded , good luck with it .. Gin

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    On a side note: does anybody know what those white hairs are called? I know mussels produce a vaguely similar type of hair for adhesion to rocks, called byssus hairs, but I don't know much about these....

    Any experts lurking??

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