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FLIES! AWWW!

This is a discussion on FLIES! AWWW! within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; why? There are phosphates in some detergents and phosphate is a componant in fertilizers, too....

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    why? There are phosphates in some detergents and phosphate is a componant in fertilizers, too.

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    hmm.....detergents huh.....random...sooner or later we'll be feeding our plants more synthetically....just as most people eat today...ha...i dont think i would ever use detergent to feed my plants but if anything im for cleaning/reusing bath/laundry run off for conservation purposes.......anyhow...hmm...

    what type of soap would you use to kill flies? Is it worth pouring soap into my roots?
    I'll deff try the yellow card catcher to get the adults and dry them out a bit
    pesky lil buggers ...

    Thanks for your input everyone

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    Actually common dishsoap...cheap with no additives...is great. It works on aphids on rose plants, and the phosphorus makes all plants grow like crazy. Old dish water poured on your houseplants or outdoor plants makes them grow like weeds. I'm not up on laundry detergent, i've always used dishsoap. My dad used to pour it on the rose bushes to kill aphids and there isn't anything that works better I've ever seen.

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    Sorry I wasn't more specific, but, yes, I meant dishsoap. I have used it and the roots have been fine. I hope you're able to get rid of those pesky bugs.

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    get a Ping, get a Ping! (Pinguicula... they are really cool)

    also, does this make you a Fligh Guy?

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    Pinguicula looks like a really cool plant...but then I would have to breed flies from my media to feed the ping....lol...
    ..ahhhh the circle of life...

    as for the fligh guy part who knows.....right now im the fly master lol.....but i think im chill..lol cool, fligh..who here thinks im a nice guy?...lol



    But anyhow back to the dish soap. They dont make soap with phosphate in it anymore (well after checking every brand at the market) its because it gets into water sources and makes the algae grow abundantly. Which inturn lowers the oxygen level in the water for the aquatic life. As well as other runoffs such as lawn fertilizer, sewage, industrial discharge, animal waste, and drinking water treatment. I never new that dishsoap and other detergent had phosphate in them before this thread but I knew of the other causes of phosphate runoff. Just a lil insight.
    Anyhow....will these none phosphate containing soaps still do the trick?
    Sorry if im really reluctant to pour soap in my roots and asking all these questions.
    Thanks

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    I use the same exact dishsoap that I use on my dishes. Whatever brand I happen to have on hand at the time. I just put a squirt in a container, fill the container with water. And pour it through the medium. I was really worried about harming the plants at first, but to win the war with the flies, I decided to give it a try. I did not note any adverse effects from that treatment, but I do understand your concern.

    I also set out some dishes of water with a drop of dishsoap in them, so any thirsty flies that land on the water will drown. The yellow sticky cards are great. I hope you can get some. I was not able to keep carnivorous plants alive. I noticed the bugs seem to prefer plants that are in soil, so I repotted most of those and took them to work for now.

    That is all the advice I have. It is hard getting rid of these pests. I wish you the best in your battle!

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    My Ping catch a lot of gnats - no gnats flying around - maybe a couple.
    tehy grow great under a CFL in a pot with peat moss sitting in a saucer/bowl with distilledwater. and they make babies/basal keikis...
    they survive with no insects. I think they are nice to have...
    for a while they were in perlite [miracle grow] that i did not notice it was prefertilized. could have killed them. repotted them in clean peat moss and started growing fast...

    well they are good to have.
    Ping moctezumae easy to grow. some are more finnicky about winter res/ cool temperatures

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    Thanks angie....ill let you know if i win the BATTLE.

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    I'm not an expert by any means, but my orchids are doing really well and have bloomed for me multiple times and they have fungus gnats. It's very cool and damp where I live and I don't think there's any hope of getting rid of them without resorting to chemicals (I've already tried soap).
    My orchids are healthy though, have plenty of great roots and leaves and seem to be peacefully cooexisting with the gnats. They worried me in the beginning but have turned out to not be such a big deal.

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