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Whats wrong with my phal orchid?

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    Can someone tell me what they think is wrong with my Phal? First time i gave it food and orchid bloom. Gave it a half dose of each. Feel like I hurt it by using them simutaneously. Its only one leaf which leads me to believe its ok and just shedding the old leaf. I left it in my ill-lit bathroom for almost 48 hrs and i'm thinking maybe lack of light induced the death of that particular leaf.

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    The leaves look fairly dark green to me. It could probably use a bit more light. It also looks like it could use repotting. I would also sterilize my cutters and remove that leaf. I am of the opinion that if something isn't working for you it is working against you. Hope this helps.

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    Thanks phyto, your probably right about the light. How do you think I should remove the leave? a careful tear or shears as close as possible. Thanks for your help, ill keep you posted.

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    I would use sterilized shears, but that is just me and I am not a senior member here. You may want to wait and see what some of the other guru's say. Good luck...you should be fine.

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    Sterilized shears would work just fine. I use a knife dipped in a bleach solution or it it is a tight place to cut the leaf off, I sometimes just use a new single edge razor blade. Be sure to seal the cut when you are finished to prevent infection.

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    Hey BD hows it going? Thanks for the tips. I was thinking about using a straight razor. When you say "seal the cut" are you just jking about how razors will cut your skin.......or does "seal the cut" mean to seal the cut that you make on the orchid for real?

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    I think your the leaf is fully exposed to direct sunlight. This is what is happening to my plants at home, when they are exposed to direct sunlight at noon later it will develop a burnt ring spot in the midrib of the leaf. When the plant is not treated with fungicide, opportunistic infections occur and it will eventually kill the leaf first and start spreading to whole plant.

    My advice for you:
    1. Cut off the affected plant parts (leaf)
    2. Treat with strong fungicide (Alliette or Dithane)
    3. Don't water the affected plant parts, water only through roots (Phalaenopsis appreciates watering but they like their roots cooled off in the morning and they hate being wet feet)
    4. Don't expose to direct sunlight. Phalaenopsis loves morning sunlight but not as in 10AM onwards that causes leaf burns.

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    Awesome reply PhilsDC, I will definitely cut off that rouge leaf and re-pot it. Why do orchids at home have such small defenses against fungi ailments yet when growing in the wild they are fine? Do we growers not provide a more perfect medium for them to flourish in healthy? I guess in the wild, orchids aren't spliced and cut which would ultimately invite infection in a controlled environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan7094 View Post
    Hey BD hows it going? Thanks for the tips. I was thinking about using a straight razor. When you say "seal the cut" are you just jking about how razors will cut your skin.......or does "seal the cut" mean to seal the cut that you make on the orchid for real?
    No joke. Really you want to seal the cut so that infection cannot get into the plant. We use a pruning seal. The easiest way is to use the spray pruning seal and just spritz the exposed flesh. If it is a hard to reach area, I spray some pruning seal on a plastic lid and use my finger or a q-tip to apply it to the cut.

    Good luck!

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    Red face Crisis averted

    I want to thank you all for your replies. Honestly, this is the first repotting and first confrontation with fungi and disease prevention.

    First, I identified the problem. Overnight the Nasty leaf fell off.
    I went to box store with a list of three different brands of pruning seal and or fungi protection that you all mentioned. Couldn't find any but the man at box storetold me that neem oil is good for disease protection + sealing cuts, so he sold me. To my unpleasant surprise after researching Neem Oil I find that it is mainly an "Overall Protecter of the plant" and good for detering mites. (Found my first mite today on my cattly, and as I looked closer I saw three or four.) Does anyone here ever use Neem Oil? Damn

    Second, I prepped and sterelized everything. I just used a house-hold bleach mix. I slowly un-mounted the Phal from it's tiny pot. Its long stem still exists after its bloom is long over. Will it bud again on that same stem or should I prune it also?

    Third, I saw that my Phal was in need of a doctor and could also be divided...which I guess is common when repotting anyways...so my brave soul decided to take it on. I exumed the settled root bedding and began to lightly untangle with water. Pruned as far back as I could. Filled with clean drainage rocks. I sat the Phal in and...TRICK I lightly shook the pot (with just rocks inside) to allow the roots to mingle in with a little dry rock during its life span...wait. Is that Okay???lol I also cut off another leaf, a small one that was turning brown underneith. I was grown from the same bulb as the other bad leaf. Geez, I hope its okay that I didnt use any seal. My razor was brand new at least.

    Forth, okay...they look great guys. I guess I didnt follow your advice to a tee because I couldnt find what I was looking for but I sure hope that all of my prep and sterelization methods pay off. Thanks for all your help guys and i'll keep you posted on how the Phal does. Should I try the Neem Oil on my Cattly? I think I mild dose would be okay. Will mites kill an Orchid?


    Again, thank you very much guys for all your support.
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