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phal in need of hail mary

This is a discussion on phal in need of hail mary within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; I really wish to save this orchid. I overwatered it by accident several months ago, ...

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    Unhappy phal in need of hail mary

    I really wish to save this orchid. I overwatered it by accident several months ago, and repotted it (removing all dead roots) in a clay pot with dry bark and watered sparingly once I realized this. It was looking better, but now it has a rotted spot on it, and none of the roots appear viable any longer.

    Is there something I can do to save this orchid? I was thinking to cut off all the dead roots and dead stalk, and possibly cut the rotted section off. I read somewhere that cinnamon is good to dust on them to keep them from rotting, so once I cut off that rotted spot I'd dust with that.. unless someone has a better suggestion. Then I would (possibly) cut off the flower stalks and bag it with the bottom still in the open air, just leaves in the bag with a wet paper towel.

    I am open to any suggestion that has gotten results for you, because I really do not wish to lose this one. Thank you very much for your help.

    The photos are of both sides of the plant and a close up of the rot.
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    A few of the roots still look viable. Give it a good cleanup. I'd use some peroxide on the black spot, give a soaking in some super thrive and then repotl.

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    is root stimulator the same as superthrive? I went to 3 nurseries and couldn't find it..

    my progress: removed the obviously dead roots, leaving two greenish yet hard and shrively roots. removed the old leaf stumps from the stem and cut off the rotted spot. dumped hydrogen peroxide on the area till it stopped bubbling, dabbed it off, and leaving it air dry. managed to get 4 of the leaves into a bag with a damp paper towel in it (its a big plant and the bag was too small lol).

    I think, after all my cleaning up, I see right under the uppermost flower stalk a root bud. here is hoping! I will try one more place tomorrow for that super thrive.

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    I would suggest to cut the flower spikes. This will help your plant to put the energy in producing new roots. If you don't cut the spikes, the recovery of your plant will take time and sometimes it will cause your plant to totally lose the stored energy.

    I saved some phals from the condition like yours. I put mine in s/h culture and see growths in just 7 days. But if you want to use other media, make sure to give your plant high humidity to encourage root growth.

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    what s/h media do you suggest? I've never used anything like that before..

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    Any type of LECA would suit the needs of the Plant. You can ask your local nurseries if they have available LECA for s/h culture.

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    Found superthrive and leca stuff. got a bigger plastic bag and a glass 'pot' so I can see through it. I will go ahead and cut off the flower stalks, its kinda disappointing as they haven't bloomed yet but.. if it will help the plant out.

    Gonna go mix up some superthrive now and get it soaking.

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    well here it is.. hopefully this will work I will probably need to add more water as the leca soaks it up.

    Thanks for your help, everyone, I'll let you know how it goes.
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    Hope everything turns out alright with it.

    Cheers,
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    Hi..I can suspect that the glass pot has no holes, I am right?

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