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Orchids not blooming

This is a discussion on Orchids not blooming within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Hi MAM- I recommend you get in touch with Sandra Hardy with the Deep South ...

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    Hi MAM-


    I recommend you get in touch with Sandra Hardy with the Deep South Orchid Society in Savannah...

    sandy.hardy@deepsouthorchid.org

    Their website...

    http://www.deepsouthorchid.org/index.html

    They're very nice folks, and have a great society. They should be able to answer your questions about orchid growing in Savannah...

    C.

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    Middle I live about 2 hours from you outside of Augusta. The problem with your with the brassia is more than likely light. Since you say it looks healthy but refuses to bloom. I have a brassia hybred that refused to bloom untill I gave it ample evening sun last year. It was in the sun from about 1 till the sun dipped below the trees. I just made sure to water it about every 2 to 3 days. Even now in my GH on sunny days with humidity 60% and up I still have to water about every 2 to 4 days. If its over cast then they can go longer. The more airmovement the better, but it also drys out the plants faster. That can be a good thing. I would venture to say 80 to 85% of the time if the plant looks healthy, but refuses to bloom its because of low light conditions. How much fert to you use? I know you say weakly, but you also mentioned the little spoon that came in the fert container. You should be using 1/4 of that spoon every week or 1/2 every other week. Now one of two things happened to the few you say are shivled. Either your not watering enough, or they stayed too wet without enough air movement and the roots rotted. I would check the roots. When was the last time you repotted? If the medium is old then it holds to much water and over watering can give tyhe sight of underwatering too because the plant has lost most or all of its roots. Check those and give up some more details. I knwo when I grew inside I killed almost every phal I had because of over watering. Also I say I water every 2 to 4 days those are for the plants outside the ones inside I have to check because some days they dry fast and others times they don't. You just have to learn to follow the ques from the plant and experiment too. I have a friend that grows in S/H and everything looks stunning, but untill I got a GH I couldnt grow in it. I am just now retesting the waters of S/H with 4 test plants. So far so good. Good luck and hit us back with more details please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TundraKev
    I really don't want to sound like an idiot here and I know this is standard advice given in every book and by every orchid grower. BUT..... Why don't I ever have a problem with this? Is it because of where I live - my latitude? I never harden anything off as the books say - orchids, seedlings, nothing and I never have a problem with stuff frying in the outside sun.

    I first discovered this a few years ago when I was late at putting my garden seedlings out and just didn't want to take the time to properly harden them off. They went directly from my basement under lights to outside. Nothing died. Nothing burned.
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    Kev,

    I have had problems with seedlings browning a bit when I put them out and I'm further north than you. (And no, it's not frost damage!) I wonder if your indoor growing conditions are closer to what's outside than mine are? For example, if you grow under really bright lights, there would be less contrast than if they were less brightly lit.

    I also suspect humidity is higher in Minneapolis than Winnipeg. (Hey, we don't say "It's a dry cold" for nothing, you know!) If you don't have the desiccating winds, that may be a huge plus.

    Just a few thoughts on why you get away with flouting conventional wisdom. Sur l'autre cote, maybe you just have all the planets aligned!

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by TundraKev
    So where am I going with all this?

    This has been a gripe of mine for a long time. When people give out cultural info to others, they don't take into consideration how things like this can make a difference. Please NOTE: I am Not making a comment on this thread or what Louis just suggested to this person. His advice makes sense since they are both in the same general region. I just wish that when folks ask for advice like this that whoever responds takes into consideration the possible differences in their conditions vs. the person asking the question. It can make a big difference.
    An excellent point, Skit!

    The Canadian Orchid Congress came to this very conclusion--they felt the culture sheets of the AOS simply didn't always "work" for Canadians. They came up with Canadian Culture Sheets in response. At your latitude, Kev, you'd probably find them helpful even though you are on the wrong side of the border. You've obviously mastered growing orchids, but if you're at all interested, I'd be glad to send you the sheets or at least a link to them.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidzrule
    Kev,

    I have had problems with seedlings browning a bit when I put them out and I'm further north than you. (And no, it's not frost damage!) I wonder if your indoor growing conditions are closer to what's outside than mine are? For example, if you grow under really bright lights, there would be less contrast than if they were less brightly lit.

    I also suspect humidity is higher in Minneapolis than Winnipeg. (Hey, we don't say "It's a dry cold" for nothing, you know!) If you don't have the desiccating winds, that may be a huge plus.

    Just a few thoughts on why you get away with flouting conventional wisdom. Sur l'autre cote, maybe you just have all the planets aligned!

    Cheers,

    Rob
    I grow under 4 tube fixtures and do keep the plants very close to the lights.
    Another strange thing is that I buy the cheapest tubes I can find. I don't worry about spectrum and all that. When I need to replace them I go to HD and usually find some cool white or warm white ones for about $1 each.

    I think part of the reason I can get away with planting stuff out directly is because I always put plants out very early - while it's still cool. I see so many people waiting until the temps are in the 70's to do their gardening chores. That's too warm. Things do much better for me if the highs are in the low 60's. Of course, this doesn't work for the things like impatiens that don't like the cold, but I grow mainly perennial things. I do like impatiens, though.

    This past weekend I finished transplanting about 450 seedlings outside. Again, everything went from the basement to the harsh outside world. Everything still looks great except for a few things the squirrels immediately dug out. Grrrrrrrrrrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidzrule
    An excellent point, Skit!

    The Canadian Orchid Congress came to this very conclusion--they felt the culture sheets of the AOS simply didn't always "work" for Canadians. They came up with Canadian Culture Sheets in response. At your latitude, Kev, you'd probably find them helpful even though you are on the wrong side of the border. You've obviously mastered growing orchids, but if you're at all interested, I'd be glad to send you the sheets or at least a link to them.

    Cheers,

    Rob
    Rob I would love a link to them. Thanks much.

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    Hi Kev, and anyone else in northerly climes,

    Here is the link to the Canadian Orchid Congress. I think this will take you right to the orchid culture sheets. If not, there is a menu of clickable links on the left hand side of the page:

    http://www.canadianorchidcongress.ca...e/culture.html


    Cheers,

    Rob

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    Thanks Rob. I bookmarked these.

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    I put my orchids outside on my east patio without gradually increasing the light also. I did it last year and just did it again last weekend. They come out of the basement (flourescent lights only) and go out with no shade to the patio. I guess I get away with it because I put them out when it is still reasonably cool and it is an east patio so they are out of the sun by 2:30. I did it last year because I had a fight with the shade cloth and the shade cloth won. This year I was nervous about it but I think I have escaped without serious injury so far.
    I run with unsterilized scissors too!!!!
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    See!! I'm not nuts or at least not the only nut.


    Thanks Shalene

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