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What sort of problem is this?

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    Default What sort of problem is this?

    I went to my parent's home for holidays and I left my phal watered. I took the rest as they need to be watered every 2-3 days.

    When I came back I found this:



    It's so sad for me, I don't get along very well with Phals and this was the first leaf I got from it (despite them being easy plants, I find other sorts of orchids easier).

    I watered it with Physan-20 and I came back to my parent's. I return home on Friday.

    I don't know what sort of problem is this, but here's a wild guess: Heating stopped functioning. Maybe I left it watered + cold = fungus?
    I checked the crown for rot. I don't have a pic. It does not look rotten but it doesn't look good either, there's something dry there. I'll take a pic when I come back.


    Help?

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    Easy. It is a fungal rot caused by either little air movement or water sitting on the leaf. If i were you i would cut the tip off, dust with some powdered sulphur or cinnammon, yes cinnammon (it has some good anti-bacterial/fungal properties) and improve air movement-add a fan to the grow area or open a window etc, and ensure the leaves dont have any water droplets on them for extended periods of time. You can do this by ensuring you water or mist the plant in early morning, because if you do it at night, it sits on the plant until late the next morning. By the sounds of it, you watered it then closed up the house? This would have contributed because of the lack of air movement. Phals usually stop growing when it gets below 10C i found.

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    Yeah, it's not the tip, it's the base of the leaf. It fell off :E. The other side is dried up.

    I had a feeling it was that >.<

    Yes I did close the house as the heating turned off accidentally and I didn't want the plants to be cold. I watered, made sure the crown was dry, same with the leaf, and everything. I should have taken this one with the rest .

    Combination of circumstances, then e.e

    I'm going to ask my boyfriend to take it with him to his home. Thanks!

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    Too much water!! Stop giving water for at least a week!

    Indeed cinnammon can do the trick. If it's not a problem then cut the leave far into the healthy tissue (in a leave shape) and powder it with cinnammon. And no water!!

    Your phalaenopsis will survive! Keep us posted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidmorris View Post
    Too much water!! Stop giving water for at least a week!
    I water every TWO weeks at most, LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidmorris View Post
    Indeed cinnammon can do the trick. If it's not a problem then cut the leave far into the healthy tissue (in a leave shape) and powder it with cinnammon. And no water!!

    Your phalaenopsis will survive! Keep us posted!

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    I'm going to check if the rot has extended into the crown tomorrow when I arrive and cut it any rotten part off. Thanks!


    Question: Would you recommend a transplant in the middle of winter to check for rotten roots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orchidmorris View Post
    Too much water!! Stop giving water for at least a week!

    Indeed cinnammon can do the trick. If it's not a problem then cut the leave far into the healthy tissue (in a leave shape) and powder it with cinnammon. And no water!!

    Your phalaenopsis will survive! Keep us posted!

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    Im not too sure that is the problem. The leaf has the rot, not the roots. If there was little or no root system, it wouldnt transfer to the leaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawbla View Post
    Yeah, it's not the tip, it's the base of the leaf. It fell off :E. The other side is dried up.

    I had a feeling it was that >.<

    Yes I did close the house as the heating turned off accidentally and I didn't want the plants to be cold. I watered, made sure the crown was dry, same with the leaf, and everything. I should have taken this one with the rest .

    Combination of circumstances, then e.e

    I'm going to ask my boyfriend to take it with him to his home. Thanks!
    I think closing the house has done it. My Coelogyne needs to be moved outside, because sitting in my room it has contracted fungal infections on almost every leaf! I cant put it out though, because it miht get tagged by Jack Frost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiorchids View Post
    I think closing the house has done it. My Coelogyne needs to be moved outside, because sitting in my room it has contracted fungal infections on almost every leaf! I cant put it out though, because it miht get tagged by Jack Frost!
    Yeah, it was a bad choice! I should've taken it here. But it was very very cold in my home so I didn't want to get it colder. Usually opening the window does the trick for my plants, and prevents me suffocating with the heating. Have you tried placing it near the window and leaving it open? My Phal is right under the window, first I was concerned about the cold, but the heater is nearby so it doesn't look like a problem for it. Thanks everybody :3.

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    Ok, I might have misunderstood the watering, I don't water my phals for at least two weeks, and they do more then well. It all depends on the climate, but not too cold and a lower RV can be best at the moment. Let the plant get in rest for a while. When new growth appears with green root tips or a leave, start with more frequent moist and some plantfeed.

    Do you have a picture of the plant in flower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawbla View Post
    Yeah, it was a bad choice! I should've taken it here. But it was very very cold in my home so I didn't want to get it colder. Usually opening the window does the trick for my plants, and prevents me suffocating with the heating. Have you tried placing it near the window and leaving it open? My Phal is right under the window, first I was concerned about the cold, but the heater is nearby so it doesn't look like a problem for it. Thanks everybody :3.
    Although Coelogynes are cool growers (mostly) they still dont like it too cold. When i say we get frosts here, i mean inside too, it is soo cold! Its that antarctic blast we have caught. If i was to put it under my window, it would probably go black and die in a few days lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiorchids View Post
    Although Coelogynes are cool growers (mostly) they still dont like it too cold. When i say we get frosts here, i mean inside too, it is soo cold! Its that antarctic blast we have caught. If i was to put it under my window, it would probably go black and die in a few days lol
    Wow, inside too? That's crazy!

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