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    Hi there,
    I've had this Phal 4 years. It was in the same pot for about 3yrs, has been flowering since last August and roots were coming out the bottom drainage holes in the old pot so I repotted it. The media had broken down so much that half the roots might as well have been in earth but there was absolutely NO rot, mold etc the plant and roots were extremely healthy. After having been repotted the leaves are steadily wrinkling, turning yellow and dropping off, I've lost 2 already and 3 more seem to be going that route. The plant is still in bloom, there is a new leaf growing and many roots seem to be growing as well... I'm at a loss... I will be very dissapointed to loose an orchid after putting it in BETTER media where it should be happier!
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    Hi Stefanie; I know it hurts to see the leaves yellow and wither this way, but though it will be set back, your Phalaenopsis will make it. You might want to not water for a week after repotting, but otherwise your photos show some healthy surface roots and a nice job of repotting in good medium. Give it time, humidity, and no bright light and it will recover. I have a Phalaenopsis that I got healthy and ended up abusing (unintentionally) twice badly! I may not see blooms for a while , but it is slowly coming back. Your Phal is definitely in better shape than mine. AL

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    I also think it will bounce back. I have a couple Phals that I have repotted that were in poor condition and took well to the new mix and pot. I also have Phals that are in decent condition but are loosing a leaf after repotting. How they react varies.

    I'm wondering though if you may need to adjust watering if you haven't already. Sounds like the old mix probably was not so free draining and maybe kept the roots more moist. The new mix being fresh and allowing more airflow could be drying quicker than what the plant is used too? It's going through an adjustment period.

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    Yes, I also agree to what's been said. The plant is just making adjustments to a new situation. From the photos, you have one healthy Phal there, and I suppose it was probably time for some of those leaves to be shed. If it is growing a new one and roots and still flowering, its putting out A LOT of energy, so even though you gave it better growing medium, it was still a change. Most plants hate change, better or worse, but they're tough enough to bounce back from most. I have Phals right now in an 'ICU' set up, one is basically just one leaf and the stub of whats left of the rhizome, but it hasn't given up yet, and looks like it may be trying to put out a new leaf, so yours is in great shape compared to that and some of my others! Keep the faith.
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    Thanks for the input! I'm happy to see none of you think I need to do anything drastic. I've had 2 phals die on me within 5mths of buying them because I didn't catch a problem fast enough. I transplanted this one 2mths ago now though, would it still be adapting? I'm watering it weekly and I let it stand for 30 mins because I found the media too dry too fast otherwise.
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    Stefanie,

    The Phal looks great. A Phal will usually lose the leaves below where the new roots or a new spike grows.

    The combination of a new mix and a clay pot will cause it to dry out quickly. The drying will slow down as the bark mix breaks in. Make sure you water very thoroughly.

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    I'm not sure how long it can take for a plant to adapt. When I get Phals they are usually packed to the max with sphag, coconut husk or other tight media which the roots were used too. So it's a big difference when they go from that to something more airy. I would be frustrated too having a plant for that long and then to repot it and see it go downhill.
    I have no luck with clay pots and made the switch to clear plastic a couple months ago. It's better for me in that I can see how the media is holding water and even some roots. I can judge if I should water more often or less. I also started using a mix of bark, moss and some other stuff since the bark mixes just weren't working for me.
    All the advice is here good. Keep an eye on it and if it continues to get worse, past normal leaf shedding, then I would think something is up. Other than that I agree it's a healthy looking plant. Keep an eye out for new roots.

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    Stefanie, your upper leaves (and the new one) look great, so I hope everything goes well. You've had this one for a while so you're obviously great at phals - we're all pulling for you! I hope we hear from you in a couple months saying how well it's doing!

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