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Paph problems

This is a discussion on Paph problems within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Hello. This may be tough without a picture but here goes... I have a Paph. ...

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    Angry Paph problems

    Hello. This may be tough without a picture but here goes... I have a Paph. Pinnochio that is a sequential bloomer. It had one well developed and blooming spike and one new spike. It has been very hot and dry here and I let the orchids get too dry and now the spikes are suffering. After its last gorgeous bloom, the blooming spike dropped a new bud and now is starting to brown from the top down (it hasn't browned all that far, but the color change is very noticeable). Is the stem actually dying off, or is it just angry that I let it get too dry?

    Also, the new stem, which is about half the size of the old, somehow curled itself around in such a way (like a pig's tail) that the top of the stem (where there were some small developing buds) severed and snapped off on its own. I though that was odd that it grew in such a way. Is the new stem a lost cause now that the top snapped off? Can I get it to bloom anyway? If not, I'm not too familiar with sequential bloomers, do I want to cut the spike all the way down?? AHHHHH this sucks!!!! I'm really upset that I've let it get this far, but I guess messing up is the only way you learn....Can anyone help me?

    By the way...the leaves still are perky and beautiful, its only the 2 stems that seem to be really suffering..

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    speaking from my two it sounds like the stem is dying off. cause that's what happened to my paph hampshire and paph laser x paph cherry cider - I brought them home put them on my orchid shelf and they were fine for a few days but nothing happend then I brought them inside cause was incredibly hot for a few days and the buds just fell off and the stems dried up. Hopefully someone answers about cutting them because I've been meaning to ask that question myself.

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    I have 3 sequential bloomers - and when the tip of the spike turns brown I cut it off. The curly que problem sounds like either sunburn or some kind of bug got to the spike. I'd wait a little to see if something good starts to happen, but I wouldn't be too hopeful. But there are others on the forum with more experience than I have - so let's see what they post.

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    I,ve had the stem of sequenntials go like yours , unfortunately that is normally a sign of the stem weakening & that usually means the spike is kaput

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    Is it possible for an orchid to get "lamp-burn" instead of sunburn? There is a lamp with a 60-watt bulb pretty close to my orchids that we use in the evenings and I'm beginning to wonder if it is affecting the plants....

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    Gee - a 60 watt doesn't put out much light or heat.... How about humidity around these guys?

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    That's what I figured about the lamp. I've checked and it never feels too hot. Also, the bulb is always pointed away from the plants.

    The humidity is fine. This particular orchid sets in a humidity tray and gets great air circulation and little if any direct sun. Unfortunately, I went against what the plant was telling me and stuck to my normal watering schedule (which was not often enough now that it is so hot and dry). I feel foolish for letting the plant get too dry, but now I know to trust my instincts and what the plant is saying rather than stick to my "schedule."

    Anyway, thanks for all of the help. I'll just wait and see now...I guess my last questions are kind of repeats from above, but here goes. What do I do with a stem on a sequential bloomer? Do I cut it all the way down? If I do, is there a time frame when I should see it grow again?? If the whole thing is not brown, do I only cut part way?? This baby is my first paph/first sequential bloomer, so any tips would be awesome!

    PS: This is kind of unrelated but oh well, I have some whiteflies bothering another plant (not an orchid) of mine that I can't seem to shake (I've only tried using Neem Oil to remedy the problem). Could the whiteflies cause problems for my orchids?

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    Whitefly thrive in dry conditions with little air movement so the humidty may be to low & air movement may need to be increased.

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    I'm not the paph expert, wonder where they all are?? But I will tell you what I do. When the spike starts to brown, I snip it off at the bottom. I have heard that very mature plants can produce branches off the original spike, but have never experienced it myself. I believe the branching occurs while the spike is still blooming, unlike a Phal which can branch after all the blooms are gone from the 'parent' spike. I would think it would be fine to leave the spike and see if anything happens... but once the tip is brown I doubt you will get any additional blooms on that spike. but maybe a branch.... I haven't had any experience with Paph Pinnochio. Sorry I can't be more help.

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    Slug, Paphs won't rebloom on old growths and spikes that have begun to die back. If you lost the spikes on this one, cut them all the way down, back to where they emerge from the growths' centers. In time, a new, young growth will appear at the base of the old; once the new one is mature, provided your conditions are appropriate, it will put out a spike from its center as well.

    Almost all Paphs need decent humidity, and with few exceptions, should never be allowed to dry off between waterings! Letting that happen can blast their buds really easily.

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