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internet orchid syndrome

This is a discussion on internet orchid syndrome within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; I don't order online a lot, because I hate paying the shipping and 'handling' charges. ...

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    I don't order online a lot, because I hate paying the shipping and 'handling' charges. I have done it some, and my results have been about 80/20 good to excellent results. I must say that all but one of the bad experiences weren't really bad, as the vendors in question made good on either supplying healthier stock, or giving a full refund. My worse experience was someone on a internet auction site who sent seedlings at a price twice what I would expect to pay for that size plants, and wouldn't make good on one that died within a short time of receipt. Wish I had shows or an orchid society nearby so I could avoid buying sight unseen.
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    the internet orchid syndrome strikes again. after a 2 week wait, i finally got this in the mail from a vendor with PERFECT feedback on an auction website. there was a note enclosed directing me to his private website promising better pricing. i can only assume they are attempting to use the auction site to get some web traffic. it seems anyone considering me as a potential repeat customer would try a little harder. their auction listings have more info about their policies than the items. should have noticed that, but i was excited to find a seller listing all sorts of things as 'temperature tolerant' and the description they have of temperature tolerant is: Tolerant = Will tolerate a wide variety of temperatures. Can be grown outside in California to Florida. so after going through their listings for a few weeks, i broke down and placed an order for 2 orchids, one an encyclia hybrid of cordigera and alata. and the other aerangis luteoalba. both he listed as temperature tolerant, growing ideally in my area. at first i was going to go with 2 orchids that i already knew would grow here, but after seeing this amazing selection of cheap but young orchids for the most part, i decided to try these 2. could not find a whole heck of a lot of info about them on the net. so finally, they arrived... and the encyclia right away i see has spots on 2 of the leaves that are most likely fungus or bacterial spotting. so not prime material... but probably salvageable. then i unwrapped the aerangis. it is a mini for sure. but i can still see that the tiny little stem is all black and dried up, and that every single leaf is deformed, each leaf is discolored with either black spots or brown streaks, and most have the part where they attach to the stem either yellowing or blackening from the stem rot, and they are all shriveled. the whole plant looks deformed and dying. seriously, do a web search for it and you will see a startlingly differently shaped plant. meanwhile, on their own website he listed the encyclia as Intermediate growing, and the aerangis as Warm growing. so, neither will survive in my garden anyway. and now i see tons of orchids he listed at the auction site as temperature Tolerant, he lists on the private site as either warm, hot, or intermediate. he just didn't bother to fill in all the info on the auctions, he just copied and pasted auction after auction and didn't change the info. i want to cry.

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    the sad part is, over the next few months i plan on purchasing maybe 20 or 30 orchids, to plant on my balcony in these 'tree trunks' i have constructed out of tree fern pots. i have 2 built, and each only has a few plants so far, so i have spots now for maybe 12 more plants, and when done i will make 2 more... and this guy's near blooming sized style is perfect for what i am doing, because their roots are more manageable and will easily root into the tree fern fiber. this guy won't be getting any more of my business, regardless how this turns out. however, the folks that sent me the 2 perfect mini renanthera hybrids (one a vanda cristata cross!!) just might, if they list anything more that can handle my weather.

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    So sorry for your horrible experience with these plants. They are certainly not healthy, so I would keep them far away from your other orchids until you have given them a good wash with some bacteriacide and fungicide. Hope you can save them.
    Good luck.

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    ---- Vendor discussion removed - see FAQs on Posting ---- I was/am happy with my little dendrobium, however. Small (which I knew from the pic and it is a true mini), but in decent shape, obviously a recent seedling which is now hitting its stride. ---- Vendor disscussion removed - see FAQs on Posting ----
    I have lots of alata hybrids and a few cordigeras also, I find them temperature tolerant and easy to grow- you may be happy with that one yet. I don't have the cross with each other, but all the alatas seem the same to me- that's one dominant plant. Only thing I will say is that they are not what I'd call small growers.

    Edit to say Otis- I don't know Ocala proper, but there is the Mid-Lakes Orchid Society which meets in Leesburg, if you're in SE Ocala that wouldn't be too far... and if you don't mind driving, I'd bookmark the Tampa club's website and hit their shows. There are usually spring shows here in Orlando, if you go to Daytona Beach the Volusia County club has a show Mothers Day weekend, and their website makes the St Augustine club look active.

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    I have bought some online and have had mostly good experiences; sometimes you get a plant that is ok but you wouldn't buy if you saw it in person at an orchid sale, at least not for that price.

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    I would definately raise hell about the aerangis luteoalba, feedback is important to the sellers and sometimes it is the only way to get some fair treatment. I think I was looking at same vanda cristata cross but decided against it, thought it might be too cool growing for me, look forward to see a bloom pic from this cross. good luck

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