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Help Please, New Addition With A Virus??

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    Default Help Please, New Addition With A Virus??

    Hello,

    I'm quite new here so I posted an introduction but it doesn't seem to have appeared yet, hopefully it will come out of hiding here soon.

    In the meantime, I'm a bit stressed out over a recent gift orchid, it's a dyed Phalaenopsis from a large California grower. When I received it last week it looked good but in the last three days or so one of the leaves has a large, almost transparent spot that covers the whole width of the leaf. I've cut it off, so I'm holding it up to the light in the attached picture. There are also a couple white, hard spots that look like something burned the leaf or munched on it, but they are very small. On all of the leaves you can see little cells in them, I tried to photo the cells, hopefully they come out ok in the pictures.

    I've moved this new guy away from my other orchids but only just today. If this is a virus is there anyway that it could effect my other orchids in just a couple days time?

    Thanks very much for any help, I'm looking forward to reading through the rest of the forum.

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    Looking like a bacterial infection to me. I could be wrong

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    You done a good job through away from your healthy orchids or burn the infected leave.

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    Thanks very much for the help. I hate to return a gift but I think I'll take this guy back to the store it came from and see if they'll let me exchange it for another. I've never dealt with a bacterial infection and I'd prefer not to take the chance dealing with this one on my other orchids.

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    Are the leaves a deep dark green and when you spray water on or rub it then it feels slimy and underneath looks transparent?

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    One of the leaves is transparent without water, it's the one in the second picture that is still attached to the plant. You can see the cells on it and see the shadow of your hand under it clearly. The other two leaves still attached are a typical green color like my other orchids. Getting all 3 of them wet didn't make them slimy at all, just a bit like maybe there was dust on them balling up in the water feeling, but not slimey and not transparent.

    I'd still like to know what's going on with it, even if I do end up returning/exchanging it. I'm worried for my other orchids now, as the one that was right next to it lost a leaf. It also has a nice new leaf out so it may just be the natural cycle and me being paranoid.

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    Leaf loss is natural with lower leaves. If the top leaves fall off then its not paranoia. As for the transparency, I will continue to ask around unless someone can offer you faster advice. The only transparency issue I know of is not what you describe.

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    is there a possibility that some liquid chemicals dropped onto that thinning leaf? the pattern looks like something dropped down on it,.. (just one unlikely theory)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kspalding View Post
    Leaf loss is natural with lower leaves. If the top leaves fall off then its not paranoia. As for the transparency, I will continue to ask around unless someone can offer you faster advice. The only transparency issue I know of is not what you describe.
    Thanks for asking. It's gone now and everyone else looks good so hopefully whatever it was won't have any after effects. It was a good lesson for me though to quarantine new orchids, especially gifts, lol.

    Lijun, it's possible something spilled on it before it got to me but with two funky leaves (the one w/spots & the other with the cell pattern) I would think the other 2 leaves would be effected too if it went through the roots. Idk?? Possible though.

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    how is your phal doing? I just read about a virus by the name of erwinia, could cause various things including transluscent leaves,.. one of the picture of the leaf actually looks like yours,. I hope yours dont have this virus

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