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Is this the end of my Dendrobium - 4 kiekis

This is a discussion on Is this the end of my Dendrobium - 4 kiekis within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; No I haven't,mostly because I had not found info on how to,when to,until I found ...

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    No I haven't,mostly because I had not found info on how to,when to,until I found this forum,I had cut two canes,because I had read it was the thing to do,bad info,I've also seen ..to water just place an ice cube on the medium every few days.... That just didn't sound right to me,seeing the roots are right there,I'd worry about ice burn,anyway I have bought some orchid medium and have it on my todo list for this weekend,I just hope I don't kill the kiekis doing it

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    It may be too late, but I'd hold off on potting up the keikis and leave them on the mother plant longer. The stems are nice and green and hold water and nutrients for the keikis. I don't see any signs of rot or infection you'd want to protect the kiekis from and would suggest you try to be patient until their roots are longer. I've got an Epidendrum that grows much like that, the older stems keep getting black spots and losing their leaves while throwing keikis everywhere. When I remember to spray it for fungal infection regularly, it shapes up pretty well, it grows like weed though. Anyway, its going to be hard to keep those keikis alive without more roots, while they are doing great on the mother plant. Good luck either way!

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    Thanks! I was planning on just leaving them and repotting mother plant,or at least remove the degraded medium and give her some new stuff,I hate knowing she won't bloom again for me,but,hope it doesn't take to long for one of her kiekis to bloom.
    I don't see any fungus or rot anywhere,I'll hold off repotting her til I hear that I should go ahead and will for sure leave the kiekis til the roots are 3 or more inches long

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    I would follow Carol's advice and leave the keikis with the mother plant until the roots are longer. However, I do think that you should try and save the mother plant and repot it into some fresh bark mix (the stuff I see in the pot looks pretty broken down). The reasons for repotting are twofold. First, you may be able to save the mother plant. Second, if your roots are in bad shape the keikis will take longer to grow.

    I recently repotted two freshly purchased Dendrobiums in bloom from dense sphag into bark and it didn't seem to bother them at all. Just be gentle with the keikis and I think you should be fine.

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    I did repot the mother plant being as gentle as possible,there were some nice new roots and lots of dead ones which I cut back some,keeping an eye on her now hoping I wasn't to late
    Thanks for your input

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    Heidi you done a good job very well actually when a lots of keikies being produced by mother plant especially for the hard cane dendrobium this indicate that the plant itself already in the stress mode this could be the medium too acidic, degraded or could be due to insects too.The medium you can use basically is coconut chips they like it so much.

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    Thank you, I did not see any insects thankfully,and I bought a special mix for orchids that has bark and such,I don't have the container handy to say what is in it exactly,I'm keeping positive thoughts that I was in time

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    Hi there. Just my two cents...but from experience with these hard cane types, I have never noticed keikis unless a plant is very stressed. This stress is usually associated with rotten roots and or cold shock to the plant. My opinion would be to just leave the keikis if they are smaller than say 3 inches high and have no roots, BUT if they do have roots and are longer than 3 inches just twist them off the mother plant and pot then up in separate little pots in orchid media. Do not water them right away as you want the cut areas to heal over well and then just water after a couple of days. I find keikis left on the mother plant just deplete the mother of any energy so a resurrection of the mother will be unlikely (sorry). Looking at your plant it looks unwell so I would hold back on fertilisers and such and perhaps water with a mild seaweed tonic, not fertiliser. Try and get some roots going on the mother and perhaps it will pull through.
    Bets of luck and let us know how it goes, it is always hard seeing one of the chids ill. I cross all my fingers and toes for you.

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    I have many Dendrobiums and this in many is quite normal to lose leaves and produce kiekis--Once the kiekis have roots about 3 inches long they can be removed and potted for a new plant--as the the orchid mix your using , all my Dendrobiums are grown in air breathing pots and i use small rocks in them to allow root growth and easy movement. Hope a bit of help and good luck with your orchid.

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