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Miltoniopsis help needed

This is a discussion on Miltoniopsis help needed within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; I have a Milt. that I purchased in April in bloom. It has continually had ...

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    I have a Milt. that I purchased in April in bloom. It has continually had leaves yellow and drop off. I keep it inside in an East facing window. It has dropped a few more leaves this last week, but also has some new growth?

    I have another one I bought about a month later. It was not doing well at all, so I stuck it in S/H and it seems to be coming around. I'm thinking the original Milt. may also need to be repotted. I could put it in S/H also, but I don't know that it has new root growth to make the transition... If I decide not to go to S/H, what media should I use?

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    i have bought several oncid and miltassia types over the last year that seem to go through this, and i think i know why... and you may be able to corroborate. is this a "plug" plant? is it loose in the potting mix, like not really established? there are numerous sellers trying to introduce plants in the 10$ to 15$ range that they buy from the growers as "plugs" meaning young blooming size plants that were grown in hydroponic plugs, like little chunks of florist clay, 2" squares. these were grown in ideal climates overseas and bought in mass by american sellers to pot up and sell to the public. the problem is that they are coming from a hydro or semi hydro environment, and then shipped long distance, sometimes bare root, and then potted up and sold over the internet cheaply in 3" and 4" pots of bark mix. some plants can survive this, and most take a long time to recover if they do at all. i am suspecting the best thing to do with these is to pull them out of the bark and grow in semi hydro. these are what i call rescue orchids for sure, because they almost always need intensive care. my success rate with these plugs so far has been about 35%. i now try to avoid these, but since they are so tempting with all the varieties i was wondering if i should try a semi hydro method next time. part of the problem is the middle man is not putting them into semi hydro, and sometimes they have it in bark too long before you buy it.

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    I pulled it out of the pot last night and it is in moss, and has lots of roots. it seems as though it was fairly established, but I think I have seen some like you are describing at another vendor. I did read some info last night that said they do not like drafts. I had it with my Phal rescues who have quite a bit of air movement on them. So, today I will move it to S/H and move it away from the "draft" created by my aggressive air movement on my Phals.

    The Phals love the air movement and it is helping with the root rot they are trying to get over. I guess I didn't think about it being too much for the Milt.

    Thanks for your help!

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    So, I pulled apart the roots and removed all of the moss. There was the little plug of "florist foam" inside. It did have a lot of roots that were growing around the perimeter of the pot, however, the moss was completely broken down and it was rotting inside. I have put it in a loose mix of small - medium charcoal, bark, sponge rock and some of the LECA balls in a clay pot. Since it has to stay inside, I can monitor it pretty well to make sure it doesn't dry out too much.

    I cut out a bunch of rotted leaves and a bulb that had turned orange and sprayed it well with Physan. I will let it rest for a few days and then water with some KelpMax to hopefully give it a boost on root growth.

    I think I have come to the conclusion that anything potted in moss from this particular vendor needs to be repotted asap. I have the Paph that is about to bloom. After it blooms, I will repot it. It looks fine now, but I am pretty sure the moss is probably in the same broken down condition.

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    yeah, see some vendors do better with these plugs. moss may be good for them, if you live in a place where it is dry enough to trust moss and you know how to water sparingly. the ones i have gotten to stay alive i have in a bark mix with some moss, and on top of that an inch thick padding of moss. the new roots go into and through the moss to the bark. they just don't seem to have a chance in straight bark.

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    Ok. I'll look at moving it back into moss or if I see some root growth, I may just put it in s/h. But it needed to be out of that rotted moss, that's for sure.

    Thanks for your help!

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    I have a miltoniopsis that flowered and now needs to be repotted. I read the best time is to repot in the fall. I was thinking about using S/H because it likes to be moist. Should I wait until fall?

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