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Phal - Can this keiki be saved?

This is a discussion on Phal - Can this keiki be saved? within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Originally Posted by kspalding I waited too long to remove my keiki and it started ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kspalding View Post
    I waited too long to remove my keiki and it started browning. Just lost it yesterday ironically.
    Sorry to hear that. Well, I was hoping that after the soak and the stem in water, my little guy would look better, but no improvement. I doubt it will make it. I think I got to it too late. The co-worker that I got it from did the ice cube thing religiously every Friday. Ironically, I gave her some mixed fertilizer in a water bottle one day to feed her orchids. I explained about not getting water in the crown, but I think that may have been what caused the crown rot on the mother plant as the ice cubes shouldn't have done it.

    All we can do is wait now..

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    BTW, Phals should not be watered with ice cubes. They like warm roots. I think the reasoning behind the ice cubes is to regulate the amount of water so that people don't over water them and don't let water sit in the crown. However, chances are the plant should have been repotted, as it was likely tightly packed in sphagnum moss, which rarely works out well in the home (though is a preferred method in green houses) as it can become soaked and won't dry out fast enough. I would expect improvement to take weeks, not days. If it stays green, I wouldn't give up on it. Keep it warm, good humidity, don't let it sit wet and it may well still put out roots. I wouldn't be too concerned if the stem is dying off, just gently twist the keiki off the stem and offer it the right conditions and see what it does. Be patient. It may start a new leaf before it starts roots. It may lose one or two of the leaves it has and still might come around. It may take months, but what a great reward! It may also just die off, I hope not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstoli View Post
    Sorry to hear that. Well, I was hoping that after the soak and the stem in water, my little guy would look better, but no improvement. I doubt it will make it. I think I got to it too late. The co-worker that I got it from did the ice cube thing religiously every Friday. Ironically, I gave her some mixed fertilizer in a water bottle one day to feed her orchids. I explained about not getting water in the crown, but I think that may have been what caused the crown rot on the mother plant as the ice cubes shouldn't have done it.

    All we can do is wait now..
    I would certainly keep trying the sphag & bag or modified version, see what happens. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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    Yes, explaining the ice cube thing to some is not too easy. My MIL is the same way.

    I'm not giving up on the baby, still need to get it some warmth. I should have put it outside this morning, it is only going to get up in the 80's and it is raining, humidity is very high. I might ask my husband to do it when he wakes up.

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