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Phal debacle. What to do?

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    I had this very healthy orchid blooming quite well. Unfortunately, The plastic pot was not very steady and fell from the window sill and thusly broke almost from the base of the plant. This is what it looks like after separating it. Is there a way to salvage it and is so what specifically should I do? There are 2 roots in good shape. Should I remove the flower? Use root stimulator? I need some tips. I would not like to lose it.Name:  Phal debacle - 1.jpg
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    I think it will be okay. I have a rescue phal that simply fell out of the pot because all but a few short roots were dead. I don't know how that happened. The leaves had been looking a little limp. I put it in a ziploc on a small pad of damp moss and sealed it almost closed. It plumped up and after about a month I set it on a pot of damp moss which I keep wet. It so far is looking fine.

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    Would you use root stimulater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moniluhum View Post
    Would you use root stimulater?
    It couldn't hurt. I would cut the spike off!

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    I would definitely use a root stimulater. I've had great luck with kelp based products on my Phals, they seem to really stimulate new roots. My personal answer would to be just repot it (using root stimulater), cut the flower stem off, keep it just damp and in low light for a while. Basically reduce stress and give it a chance to grow new roots. You may lose a leaf or two, but probably the rest of the plant will be fine. Don't over water it - keep water off the plant (as usual) - but keep it from entirely drying out. It looks like it has one air root, do keep that in the air and mist it regularly. Also, when you repot it, do use something to stabilize it. They don't root in well if the plant wobbles. That's just my take on it, I hope there are useful ideas in my post.

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    I don't think I used anything. All I would have used is kelp extract, but I don't think I did. After I posted I checked mine and discovered it has some new tiny root nubs starting. It lost its roots about 3 months ago. I agree to cut the spike off.

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    Would it be better to use sphagnum or orchiata?/

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    I use sphagnum to keep constant moisture at the few roots it has. It's what they call "sphag and bag."

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    I did a modified spag and bag with mine with no roots and it has survived. I used modified because of our humidity that you and I live in but it hasn't been that humid recently. I put the plant in spag and then put the plant in an aquarium and covered it 3/4 of the way with Saran Wrap. I put some pebbles and 1/8 inch water in the bottom of the aquarium. I find that SuperThrive didn't work for me but it seems that Neptune's Harvest did.

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    Starting with Monica's questions; definitely remove the inflorescence.

    The use of a root growth stimulant is certainly a "plus", but is not essential. The plant "wants" to live. Giving it a chemical boost to do so seems like a no-brainier to me, especially if you have strong feelings about the plant.

    As to which medium, that is not something that can be chosen by duplicating others, as it has as much to do with your cultural parameters and watering habits, as it does the particular plant, and no two of us have identical parameters.

    Traci's lack-of-success with Super-Thrive may have been due to age or storage. The synthetic hormones in it and other products, like K-L-N, are quite chemically unstable, so degrade rapidly, especially if allowed to get warm or being exposed to light. A fresh batch will be viable for about a year if kept cool and dark (refrigerated), but considering we don't know how it was transported or stored before getting to the retailer, how long they had it, etc., it's a crap shoot.

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