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Orchids give as they take away

This is a discussion on Orchids give as they take away within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; This morning I got up and my Brassavola nodosa is still putting out new flowers. ...

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    This morning I got up and my Brassavola nodosa is still putting out new flowers. I got it as a seedling and this is the first bloom. Then I checked in my inside orchids. One of the miniature orchids I bought on sale has crown rot. The leaves are taking on a yellow tinge and one dropped this morning. Apparently a small amount of water collected in between a leaf at the base and it rotted. I don't have much hope for it but I cleaned it with pereroxide and then put cinnamon on it. I don't want to use physan as I find it stresses an orchid even more. Is there anything else I can do? Should I move it away from brighter light? The other three miniatures I bought with it are putting on leaves and seem happy. This one never did really grow in the two months I have had it. Name:  image.jpeg
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Size:  121.8 KB I find that some orchids I take home just die. I wonder if they were defective from the start or if it's something I am doing.

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    I think defective plant! I have had a number shipped in that I personally didn't pick that never do anything but decline and die. I have bought a few that have done the same but more often it happens when I don't pick it out.

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    Love your brassovola Traci! Mine doesn't bloom until late summer/early fall - interesting! Bought one at the show last month that supposedly has a pink lip (forgot the name, too lazy to run outside to get it). Good luck with your other orchid!

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    Love Brassavola! I have11 species and primary crosses. 2 I have had for 4 years. None have ever flowered. I am giving them a lot more sun then I have before so maybe this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 78Terp View Post
    I think defective plant! I have had a number shipped in that I personally didn't pick that never do anything but decline and die. I have bought a few that have done the same but more often it happens when I don't pick it out.
    Yes it is weird isn't it how some just are failures to thrive?

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    Sometimes I think that they were recently imported and stuffed into a pot and shipped out to the end grower. So they have never had a chance to catch a breath and settle in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheryl View Post
    Love your brassovola Traci! Mine doesn't bloom until late summer/early fall - interesting! Bought one at the show last month that supposedly has a pink lip (forgot the name, too lazy to run outside to get it). Good luck with your other orchid!
    Very strange that yours blooms later when we have roughly the same climate. This one was very small when I bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris in Hamilton View Post
    Love to Brassavola! I have11 species and primary crosses. 2 I have had for 4 years. None have ever flowered. I am giving them a lot more sun then I have before so maybe this year.
    Thank you. I think the key is light for this one. I kept it indoors when it was a seedling and it grew leaves but nothing happened. I moved it outdoors I think last October when it was still fairly warm here. It is hanging on a hook under the awning of my house next to two of my Vandas. It seems happy with the light and really took off its growth adding many roots and more leaves. I water it twice a week right now but with it being so much hotter I may have to start increasing it to three times a week.
    I have to make sure not to stand too close to it at night... I am allergic to the scent

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    Sometimes I think that they were recently imported and stuffed into a pot and shipped out to the end grower. So they have never had a chance to catch a breath and settle in.
    I definitely agree. And then my home is not quite the warm cozy nest they were in at the greenhouse so some never do catch on. I guess I am lucky I can still count my losses on one hand. All but one were in the 3 months after I acquired them. I realize this just means that I haven't had orchids long enough yet if the losses are that low.

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    That is not crown rot, it is basal rot. The center of the growths, where new leaves emerge is the crown, and yours looks nice and healthy.

    I doubt that they hydrogen peroxide was more than a temporary fix, but the cinnamon was a good idea. If you want to go with some proven treatments, I find that Biosafe Disease Control is the best topical. It is also a hydrogen peroxide product, at a fraction of the concentration as drugstore peroxide, but unlike it, which decomposes instantly upon application leaving a puddle of water, it is stabilized with perchloroacetic acid (making it smell like vinegar), so remains active as long as it's still wet.

    If you want a proactive treatment, that can both cure rots and prevent them from happening, take a look at Inocucor Garden Solution, which is an engineered blend containing some dozen or so beneficial bacteria and fungi that kill pathogenic ones. I had a $150 phalaenopsis clone develop and erwinia infection, and a few days of spraying with 2% solution completely cured it. Used monthly at 1%, I have seen virtually all rots vanish in my greenhouse.

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    Thanks Ray! I am looking into the solutions now. Also I had never realize there was a difference between crown and basal rot. I learn something new every day. Not sure it will keep the leaves as they are starting to yellow but will see what happens.

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    Ray, I ordered some of the proactive solution. I read where plants are soaked overnight in it. Can you PM me with more information on exactly how to achieve that or post it here? I am sort of afraid to soak anything overnight.

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