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This is a discussion on Wasps, Ants etc. within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; The product I used (Home Exterminator) contains orthoborate so it isn't really an insecticide. I ...

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    The product I used (Home Exterminator) contains orthoborate so it isn't really an insecticide. I am surprise it worked so well now that I looked it up. You wouldn't have to tie it to the mount. The ants forage at night. As long as the container is close by they will find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sciencegal View Post
    The product I used (Home Exterminator) contains orthoborate so it isn't really an insecticide. I am surprise it worked so well now that I looked it up. You wouldn't have to tie it to the mount. The ants forage at night. As long as the container is close by they will find it.
    I think tying would be easiest but maybe to the trees and chainlink fence the plants are hanging on. Thanks again!

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    Another good control for carpenter ants is anything with Abamectin which is a natural soil borne agent. Since it is not a toxic insecticide you might be able to find it in Ontario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sciencegal View Post
    Another good control for carpenter ants is anything with Abamectin which is a natural soil borne agent. Since it is not a toxic insecticide you might be able to find it in Ontario.
    Nope, can't get it. Bee killer. On that note, this spring I had cherries, peach, and apricot in full bllom at the same time. I was working in there for about 3 hours and saw 1 bumble bee. Very sad. Oh' the raised beds will be 3' wide.

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    The biggest problem to me has always been the ants. Once, after I was forced to throw a plant that died after a serious ant invasion, I asked a professional what to do. His answer was just to by ant bait gel that contains fipronil. I should apply some small dots of the gel at a few places around the plants and wait one or two weeks and all ants would be gone. I'm doing this once or sometimes twice a year if necessary and I have never had a problem since. For a mount I would not put the gel on the cork but around the place where it is hanging.

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    Thanks Arne but that one is under investigation and not available to the public until a decision is made The one I was able to get a few years ago contains Imidacloprid and it works very well. I used some outside to kill iris borers when the iris had finished flowering and there was nothing else in that bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris in Hamilton View Post
    I don't have a problem with pesticides as such. I just don't want to kill those little bees, spiders or centipedes that might be lurking. You can't buy any pesticides in Ontario now Ray. The only thing you can get without an agricultural permit is soap type products. Really miss the days when you could just sprinkle a few granules on the surface soil and no more bugs. I was able to get a systemic from the States a couple of years ago but that has since been banned so no more.
    Yeah... I had family in Mississauga, and my uncle was the most fastidious gardener I ever met - probably a result of the inability to garden at all in decades in an apartment down by the University of Toronto. He often asked me to bring stuff up when visiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDT View Post
    I know that ants do not like Hydrogen Peroxide, I have used it on my orchids with no problems.
    I did have problems with peroxide on orchids. I used a 3% solution on Phals a few years ago. It burned the leaves where the new growth was emerging. Left nasty scars on then when they grew out. Wish I'd taken pitures at the time.

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    Yeah... I had family in Mississauga, and my uncle was the most fastidious gardener I ever met - probably a result of the inability to garden at all in decades in an apartment down by the University of Toronto. He often asked me to bring stuff up when visiting.
    When I worked in the cactus greenhouses we used to use some pretty nasty stuff. Full hazmat suite and oxygen tanks. Had to do it after the greenhouse temps went below 76F so sometimes two in the morning. The spray hit the plants, fell on the floor and into drains that emptied directly into the canal behind and that went into a wildlife sanctuary and then to Lake Ontario. I guess things are for the better now but I sometimes miss those instikill products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris in Hamilton View Post
    I did have problems with peroxide on orchids. I used a 3% solution on Phals a few years ago. It burned the leaves where the new growth was emerging. Left nasty scars on then when they grew out. Wish I'd taken pitures at the time.
    I know you don't believe me but hydrogen peroxide is inert unless it comes into contact with fungi, bacteria or blood. It needs an enzyme to break the water/hydrogen bond. That enzyme is present in those things. So, if your tender growth was scarred by the heat of the reaction then bacteria or fungi was present. You may have scarred the leaves but you may have prevented rot from bacteria or fungi.

    I don't know how I would manage without some sort of pesticide. I just finished doing the second of three dips for about 30 african violets and streptocarpus in a miticide to hopefully get rid of a cyclamen mite. If I couldn't get this miticide I'd have to throw them all out. However, I do not use any organophosphate which is too toxic to anything with a nervous system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sciencegal View Post
    I know you don't believe me but hydrogen peroxide is inert unless it comes into contact with fungi, bacteria or blood. It needs an enzyme to break the water/hydrogen bond. That enzyme is present in those things. So, if your tender growth was scarred by the heat of the reaction then bacteria or fungi was present. You may have scarred the leaves but you may have prevented rot from bacteria or fungi.

    I don't know how I would manage without some sort of pesticide. I just finished doing the second of three dips for about 30 african violets and streptocarpus in a miticide to hopefully get rid of a cyclamen mite. If I couldn't get this miticide I'd have to throw them all out. However, I do not use any organophosphate which is too toxic to anything with a nervous system.
    Geesh, I need to check my spelling when I post! Maybe that is the case. All of those Phals were thrown out eventually, not because of the scars but about a year later something happened to them where their roots stopped taking water. All of the roots even the aerial dried up and then leaves the withered. Even tried cutting everything off below the last leaves but they would not grow new roots. Didn't get any new Phal's until last January and then only mini's. You're very brave to grow violets in New Mexico!

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