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Suspected Oncidium Virus (56K warning!)

This is a discussion on Suspected Oncidium Virus (56K warning!) within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; New poster, long-time lurker. Picked up this Oncidium the other day. I was so excited ...

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    New poster, long-time lurker. Picked up this Oncidium the other day. I was so excited to find the flower type that I wasn't paying close enough attention to the leaves. The thing was in the half-off section, due to the fact that it hadn't been watered in what looked like a year. I brought it home and gave it a good soak, but the more I look at it, the more it troubles me. It's sitting near some other plants, but it's in 'quarantine' for now. Has anyone here used Critter Creek Labs before? I've heard them recommended, and the prices sure seem right. I have two plants I'd like to check, this one and my Brassia Rex 'Sakata' Photos posted below....

    pbulb markings....


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    top and underside of another leaf....




    whole plant....


    I'm really hoping I can save this poor thing. It'll be a gorgeous plant when it comes back, and the new growth point is showing amazing growth (nearly 1 inch in two weeks). That's really what's giving me doubts about the virus, it's showing no signs of growth inhibition, even after being neglected until its pbulbs were withered up like raisins. Not even any creasing on the incoming leaves, which even the pampered Brassia has shown. Thanks in advance. Hope that's not too many photos....

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    Hi J!

    Welcome and thanks for coming out of the closet! I'm not a virus pro. None of those photos troubles me, except maybe the next to last. Your plant does look healthy, ignoring the raisin p-bulbs. They show past thirstiness. You're right that the non-pleated new growth shows current happiness.

    I'll let others advise on the virus and virus doctors, but I'm curious what the plant is. Did it have a legit tag?

    Julie

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    Hi and welcome.

    Check out this thread and the links within. http://www.rv-orchidworks.com/orchid...=Critter+Creek

    Cheers!
    BD

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    You are safe .Its not a virus,those leaf markings are quite normal.I have plants with the same,not sure of the cause but thing that its a combimation of water/air/light another words cultural.

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    Thanks all for the advice and welcomes! So far, it seems like good news. I guess I over-reacted because I'd had another Oncidium which was just about to flower again, and developed spots very similar to these. I tossed it with great sadness, and hadn't found another with similar flowers until this one, so I jumped at it when I saw it. It was only in better outside light that I really got a good look at it. Ah, the impulse-regret cycle. If anyone else would like to chime in, I'd be glad to listen. So much to learn!

    To Piper: It is tagged, it's Onc. Summer Wind 'Paris' The "Paris," though, is smudged fairly badly, and it's a guess as to what it really says. It's really Pa_ _s, and the two letters look a lot like an "r" and an "i"

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    Always suspect a culture problem, before a virus. 99% of the time that's what it is. Fertilizer burn can be horrific in fert-intolerant orchids. (Boy I've studied that first hand!) You'll be sure your plants have contracted bubonic plague, and you'll hold your breath when you're around them.

    Breathe into that paper bag you learn to keep handy when inspecting your 'chids (not to save you from the plague, but to save you from hyperventilating, passing out, and breaking that flower spike) and snap a quick pic and post it here. The pundits will soothe your frayed nerves, you'll pour a tall glass of your favorite adult beverage, and everybody will learn a bit.

    Ok, J, that was the warm fuzzy part...

    I don't see any Onc. alliance Summer Wind registered with the AOS. Could be a mistagged plant, unless anyone else has an idea. I can't imagine a non-registered plant would be cloned, with a cultivar name to boot.

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    Not sure on that, Piper. I'm not a very serious collector yet, so I keep the tags more for some kind of ID. Most everything I have is a NOID so far. Where is a good place to search listed cultivars? Are there photos there, as well? This is getting a bit off topic, so if a mod wants to yell, please go ahead.

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    Oh, don't worry J - the mods are pretty laid back here! Just don't mention specific vendors or stores in your posts and you'll be fine. Hijacking a thread (that is, going off topic) isn't just allowed, it's sort of a rite of passage. Baptism by hijack, we say.

    See, Sarah! And you were worried about hijacking Jason's thread...

    I've got Orchidwiz, which is an orchid database with photos (for the plants they have photos of), and the AOS information. But it doesn't show all registered cultivars. It does show all awarded cultivars, but a grower could name something he wanted to clone, and I wouldn't necessarily see it if it hadn't won an award. That would cover the 'Paris' part of the name.

    The Onc. Summer Wind is the cross or grex name, and that ought to be in my database, and it's not. That's why I'm wondering if it's mistagged.

    Hey, I saw more than three orchids in your collection - you're getting serious! Maybe only starting to get serious, but here you are, asking good questions and sharing photos of your plants: welcome to the addiction!

    Julie

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    OY!! i just looked into it and MAN is orchidwiz expensive. ive barely spent more than that on plants! (not including pots, media, stakes, lights, books, society membership, etc) but still, WOW!

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    3. A cheap way to find out if a cross / hybrid has been registered is to use the Royal Horticultural Society's website. Here, you can search a particular grex / hybrid name [Grex Name Search] or use the names of the parents to find the registered hybrid name [Parentage Search]...

    ok, so if there's confusion and chaos... my work here is done

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