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Causing more problems

This is a discussion on Causing more problems within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Well, wanting to be sure all the scale was gone, I repotted the plant in ...

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    Well, wanting to be sure all the scale was gone, I repotted the plant in Aug. The two new growths had lots of healthy roots, but I had to cut off most of the roots on the mature growths. Later all the leaves fell off of both the new growths. Still, I did not cut them off since they had most of the plant's live roots and since the remaining p-bulb part was still green. Now, though, those little p-bulbs seem to have died. Do I need to cut those parts off to protect the rest of the plant?

    Sorry for the continuing problems...

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    I forgot to mention that the roots on the shriveled/dead p-bulbs still seem ok. They seem to have stopped growing but are still white. Don't know if that makes a difference as to whether to cut off those p-bulbs.

    Also, if I do cut them off, the rest of the plant is practically rootless. In that case might sphag and bag help? Is it possible to get new roots to grow from old p-bulbs?

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    Hmmm, I think I would leave it alone. If the roots are still healthy, then the shriveled PBs might be from under watering. BTW, the old PBs give their 'energy' to the new and developing growth. They eventually dry completely up and die back. Maybe that is what is happening with your plant. I have learned that 'too much care' is sometimes more harmful to a plant than 'not enough attention'. Again, if you post a photo of what you are describing, others may be able to give you sage advice on how to proceed. I hope everything works out.
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    Ok, I've got a couple of pics, and I'll try to explain this better.

    This year's growth seemed undamaged by scale, but this year's leaves were damaged by rot during the scale treatment process. Then, after repotting, all four of this year's little leaves (there'd been 2 new growths this year) fell off since the part of the leaf that connected to the plant had gotten damaged and weakened by rot.

    At the time I did not remove what was left of those growths since they were still green and had 99% of the plant's roots. Now, though, those poor little growths have turned darker and shriveled, and I'm wondering if they could be causing harm to the rest (older part) of the plant.

    This year's growth's are circled in red.
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    Wow, I hate to say this, because I try to nurse plants back to health sometimes too, but I think that one is not going to make it. And if the plant survives, it will be a few years before you can realistically expect any blooms. It might be time to think about replacing this one and putting your attention to caring for a healthy plant. Sometimes this happens. It is not pleasant to think of throwing one away, but in the long run, I think that is what I would do. From the looks of the photos and the description you present, I don't see much hope. Sorry.

    What does the rest of the plant look like? Do you have a current photo of the whole thing? From these it doesn't look like it is very healthy at all.

    Anybody else want to chime in here? If there is a way to save this plant lets help ang do it!

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    from the photos that are above I go along with you BD.I have worked on plants that are like above and its such a strugle and in the end after about 1-2 years it is chucked onto the compost heap.It is disheartening when it happens .

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    Here's the rest of the plant, and, no, it's not very healthy. However, if there is any chance of saving this guy, I would like to take it. I'll take the time; I'll risk having it be for nothing.

    If I cut off this year's growth, is there any way to get roots to grow on the old p-bulbs, or do I just have to hope they can hang on until next spring? Aargh, spring seems so far away right now...
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    I understand your determination to keep it. I have several plants that nearly died because of problems that I didn't recognize at first, and I could not let them go. Based on my record, I am not a very good person to take advice from, but if it was my plant I would use some rooting hormone on the base of the green pb. I would also not re-pot but make sure that is not wobbly (use pot clip or stake). Keep it on the dry side and lightly spray the exposed roots with good water every morning. Once a week I would spray the whole plant and pot with your water and soap mix and then put it in the shower (or even better in the rain if not too cold). I believe it helps a lot with keeping the bugs off especially the no-see mites. Keep everything else (sun, ventilation and temp.) medium. You never know, it might come back.

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    If you decide to save it , getting one of the bulbs to produce a new growth from a dormant eye is the best shot . It will not regrow roots from the old bulbs but would from new growth . If you have a weeping willow tree (no Joke) mash up some of the green bark to make a paste coat a dormant eye with it , might work might not , a keiki root paste works the best . if you type it in a search a couple of places to get it will come up . Gin

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    I know how special certain plants can become, and that this will sound incredibly callous, but perhaps it's time to send this poor soul to the Great Greenhouse in the Sky. That is, the giant compost heap out back...

    For the time, energy, and concern you've paid it already, it looks like it's on a slow or more rapid march to death, despite your efforts. A healthy, blooming plant is so much more rewarding. We've all killed 'em. We each have the drawer of shame to show for it the drawer filled with tags no longer owning a pot...or plant! But it's not murder. It's orchid collecting. And it's how we learn.

    That being said, the hardened bitch signs off, walks downtown to buy something for dinner, and plans how she can make more forum members cry later this evening...

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