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Phal on verge of death??

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    Exclamation Phal on verge of death??

    The phal I've been watching for my friend is definitely *not* doing well in my office. I'm thinking it doesn't have enough air movement...its beginning to yellow at the base of the leaf, and the stem itself is looking yellow...I'm scared, what do I do? The roots are pretty cruddy too- mostly mushy; no dryness, and dark brown. I actually took the phal out of the sphag it was in and put it in a bark mix; hopefully it'll dry out a little more.

    Is this a case where I should sphag and bag to try and get new roots to grow? Or is this phal a goner?? I know I sphag'd/baged a phal a few years ago, but I can't remember how I did it....take a look at let me know what you think- sorry for the bad pictures:
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    Hi Becky. Yeah, it looks a little dicey--mostly because it doesn't have too many leaves to begin with and the stem is yellowing. Since you have changed the media and trimmed the bad roots, it sounds like you have done about all you can. If the central stem is yellowing, that's not good.

    Does the plant have a large root system? The only thing that strikes me from your pictures is that the pot is pretty large for the size of the plant. And since you're a mister, I'm sure you know not to let water sit in the axils of the leaves.

    Maybe it will still throw a new leaf or show other signs that it wants to live.

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    Looks like the beginnings of crown rot to me. Probably one for the trash...

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    I think it is just the leaf base of the leaf with the yellow and not the stem that is yellowing. Hopefully it will pull through. Sounds like you did the best you could!

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    Unfortunatly your phal does have crown rot. Also the roots have been rotted away. Your crown rot started from the root and went upward. That is usually caused by long periods of moisture in contact with the roots.

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    There isn't any evidence from those pictures that your plant has crown rot. But, it does look like there might be a problem with its roots. I'm not sure if you just watered, but your media looks very wet. I let me phals get pretty close to being bone dry before watering again.

    I suspect your plant has a very poor root system, and as a result the leaves are slightly shriveled and the leaves are yellowing. The solution? Unpot and check the roots, then repot in a courser media like large bark, and don't water as often. Semi hydroponics might be a good option for you as well.

    You plant does not have crown rot.

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    The plant does have crown rot. Not only is the top is slowly turning yellow, the whole base of the lower is already yellow. Within a week, the whole leaf should turn yellow and fall off.

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    This plant was doing so poorly, and it really had no viable roots left to speak of, so I'm trying to sphag and bag it as a last resort! I also dipped it in rooting horomone, just because it honestly is such a desperate situation...I'll letcha know what happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky15349 View Post
    This plant was doing so poorly, and it really had no viable roots left to speak of, so I'm trying to sphag and bag it as a last resort! I also dipped it in rooting horomone, just because it honestly is such a desperate situation...I'll letcha know what happens!
    What do you mean it doesn't have viable roots left. In the picture we see one green root. Correct me if I am wrong, if the plant has rot root we will not see a green root in the picture . Don't be desperate, I was able to rescuese a phal which have no, zap, zip root by dipping in hormone several hours, put it in the bark and it grows well. Your plant is much much better than mine. One leave will definitely be yellow and drop. Don't worry about it. Keep water with hormone solution for a few week you will see new root and leave. Smile.

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