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Pick your Poison...

This is a discussion on Pick your Poison... within the Orchid Ailments / The Compost Pile forums, part of the Orchid Culture category; Or what is your pick of poison. I was curious what are your preferred systemic ...

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    Default Pick your Poison...

    Or what is your pick of poison.

    I was curious what are your preferred systemic insecticides. I have noticed the classic signs of spider mites on a couple of my phals and want to wipe them out. I've already tried the "drown them" technique without success, so it is time to go for something stronger.

    I think it is probably against the forum rules for you to tell me where you buy it (I'd be grateful for a PM of vendors if you have a good one)--just the name of insecticides you've used with success would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all

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    I use Isotox by Bayer. I think it has another name now, but you will see "Isotox" on the label. You can by it at most big home improvement stores. You must use it outside.

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    I can't seem to find systematics here in Canada at any home improvement store.
    off topic, I see potassium salts used for fungicide, is it dangerous for orchids?

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    Thanks Diane, I'll see what I can find and get to work on those little buggers.

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    Try neem oil it work like a charm.

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    I tried Orthene, and it worked, but not 100%. It had to be reapplied 3 times. The problem is that it stinks, and is not safe for people and pets. I could only use it outside, so in the Winter I wasn't able to spray with it. Finally, I started spraying my plants (all of them) with a mix of water soap and neem in the bathtub followed by 5 min shower. If I didn't have time for it, I was spraying plants with rubbing alcohol with soap which is especially effective on mites. I was later told that alcohol drys the plants too much, but none of my plants suffer any damage with it. I haven't seen any bugs since last Fall. I would probably still use systemic insecticide if I had a very infested plant, but then I would follow up with the safe remedies like neem, soap and alcohol. I hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ania View Post
    I tried Orthene
    Orthenex is the same thing I think. Acephate is the active ingredient. I have never had a reinfection, but the little buggers (mealies) keep popping up on other plants.

    Maybe I should water all the plants, spray everything down, close the door to the room and not go in for a couple of days?

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    Keltane is the weapon of choice for mites but is sometimes hard to find and stinks must be used outside , some of the bug killers won't get mites, they are a member of the spider family , they like low humidity ,dry conditions .
    My daughter got them on her Phals . I used Safers on the leaves every 3rd day and washed the leaves before reusing the safers for 3 times . The hatch cycle is very short on them I think every 3 days . Safers is safe to use in the house . Gin

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    scarily, my first thought was what tonic does McDrinker enjoy... second of course was, that i needed a top up of red...

    anyways, back to the real subject of this thread...

    I don't use systemics because I have issues with using pesticides when I have very very nortie dogs who eats my dendrobiums.

    So, I use an organic 'killer' called Eco-oil. I believe it is similar to Neem Oil and other such 'organic' pesticides. Seems to work well on aphids and mealies. Not sure I believe its effectiveness on scales and have never tried it on spider mite.

    sorry, I probably wasn't helpful at all... but thought i'd share anyways :-)

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    Thanks all --sorry for the long absence. I got some good insecticide as recommended and sprayed them three times in the course of about 15 days. For about a month now, I haven't seen any recurrence.

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